Medieval World

The Swert · 16-06-2008, 07:07

Introducing a new medieval period mod for EUII...

Medieval World

Download v1.03 from here

In a Nutshell:
-Uses WATKABAOI map
-Timeframe: 844AD-1337AD
-Scenarios: 844, and in the future 1067 and 1205.
-Ideally, it will allow conversion into the AoI scenarios allowing gameplay from 844 to 1914. (Yet to be implemented)

Longer Explanation:
This mod I originally planned to create for the MWATK map but that was never completed and it's current version is inadequate for a proper game. So i decided to use the next best thing, the WATKABAOI map. I then came up with an idea, wouldn't it be awesome if you could play a medieval scenario and then be able to convert it into a renaissance game. And then MedWorld was born. This mod is designed to, as best as possible, be converted into the WATKABAOI 1337 scenario. Ofcourse this is yet to be tested as the mod is not finished.

Status and To-Do List:
1: add 876 scenario
.............a) add european nations....................-done
.............b) adjust known provinces.................-mostly done
.............c) adjust religions............................-done for europe
.............d) adjust diplomacy..........................-vassals only
.............e) add asian nations.........................-done
.............f) CoTs..........................................-done
.............g) add armies..................................-basic
2: add AI files............................................. .-partial
3: adjust tech tables.....................................-done
4: add major events.......................................-prescribed european events, partially written
5: add monarch lists......................................-partial
6: add leader lists
7: add flags and shields..................................-partial
8: adjust national colours................................-done for starting nations
9: rewrite culture system................................-in progress
10: add 1067 scenario
.............a) nation placement/tech...................-partial, Europe completed
.............b) religions
.............c) CoTs
.............d) diplomacy/interaction
11: add 1205 scenario
.............a) nation placement/tech
.............b) religions
.............c) CoTs
.............d) diplomacy/interaction
12: add other events

The Swert · 16-06-2008, 07:07

844 layout (v1.02) ------ 1067 layout (v1.03) ----- 1205 layout (v1.03):

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Country ID tags (v0.1):
red = to be included
orange = reserved for later inclusion
white = not included
yellow = included
(IO) = used in Il-Khanate option of 1337 scenario, cannot be used

Wari Bana · 16-06-2008, 08:13

Wow! Looks good ! agc-what?

a campaign from 876-1914...
i'll be camping in front of the pc for weeks that way

you'll need some sound triggering to get events to fire i guess after a couple of 100years of gameplay...

demokratickid · 16-06-2008, 08:35

Zang! This looks likely to be a an excellent mod!

Lord Finnish · 16-06-2008, 10:07

Oooooh! A new EU2 mod!!!
Is there a beta? I would love to play beta!

Blaster · 16-06-2008, 10:38

looks GREAT!

The Swert · 16-06-2008, 11:01

Aye, Thanks for the quick replies, shows there's interest atleast. Although there's much to be done and many issues involved.

One of the hardest decisions so far was what nations to include as separate nations. Medieval Europe was full of counties, dutchies, kingdoms and dynasties who were all really vassals of each other so its hard to decide what to separate and what not to (most visible with the Normandy and Norman England, same country or separate nations and when do they separate?). Then there's the issue of tribal groups which dominated Eastern Europe in this time. I've done my best so far to replicate a medieval world and obviously many many events are still needed to slowly progress the game towards its 1337 historical climax.

I should say, i actually am unsure how you would go about converting this game into WATKABAOI, all i've done is ensured that all nations existing at the end of this mod are featured as starting nations in the 1337 WATKABAOI such that a conversion would be possible. Although there would still be much reconciliation required.

I've used several other mods and discussion thereof for inspiration and at times have poached certain aspects from them including the Year 900 Scenario, IFU, Dark Ages and MES. I have also used some flags and shields by Kaigon which i found. I hope nobody objects to my using their work.

I could use a hand in many areas:
Creating monarch and leader files, i've found a good source on monarch names but then you need to give them ratings.
Loads of events need writing, i've made a rough list of european events.
The AI files of course, i'm not too experienced with programming AI.

If you really want a beta i'll upload it soon. But note, many of the events have no descriptions yet.

Blaster · 16-06-2008, 11:32

i'd be glad to help. contact me on msn.

Lord Finnish · 16-06-2008, 12:40

First "bug": In the download thread the "discussion here" links to the download, not this thread

The Swert · 16-06-2008, 12:46

lol i forgot how to link things. fixed now.

cool-toxic · 16-06-2008, 12:50

Looks really good.

Stuff like who you will convert the different nations that does not exist in WATKABAOI might be a bit hard, because I left like zero free nations.

The Swert · 16-06-2008, 13:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by cool-toxic

Looks really good.

Stuff like who you will convert the different nations that does not exist in WATKABAOI might be a bit hard, because I left like zero free nations.

I know you did. The idea is that when the mod is finished, if the game progresses historically, which it won't, then only the nations that exist at the start of WATKABAOI will exist at the end of MedWorld.

wryun · 16-06-2008, 13:34

What was incomplete about the MWATK map? (just curious)

The Swert · 16-06-2008, 13:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by wryun

What was incomplete about the MWATK map? (just curious)

The straits didn't work and we couldn't fix it without Kasperus.

wryun · 16-06-2008, 21:17

Ah, that's a shame. Would have thought that anyone who knows about map-making could have fixed that one.

Kasperus · 18-06-2008, 10:19

So would I, since I'm pretty sure that I told the interested parties what I thought would be needed to fix the problem... But I guess using an already finalized and well-developed map as watkabaoi is better for any mod developed nowadays that to have to spend weeks if not months to get mwatk on the same level (I know I wouldn't bother myself

)

The Swert · 18-06-2008, 13:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasperus

So would I, since I'm pretty sure that I told the interested parties what I thought would be needed to fix the problem... But I guess using an already finalized and well-developed map as watkabaoi is better for any mod developed nowadays that to have to spend weeks if not months to get mwatk on the same level (I know I wouldn't bother myself

)

Well cool-toxic did what you said but it didn't work so we were at a loss. But as you said, there was still a lot of work required to finish MWATK.

Lord Finnish · 01-07-2008, 21:03

Any progress? Can't wait to unite Britain and whoop some Danes

The Swert · 02-07-2008, 05:03

I'm working on a new version, although it's not finished yet. I got some AI now and I had trial run of things the other day for about 30 years and the British definitely had fun against the Danes.

I'll try release v0.2 soon. Although if anybody knows anything about 9th Century history I would appreciate any help.

Lord Finnish · 02-07-2008, 11:08

Exploring my mod launcher, noticed a mod called "Dark Ages". You could contact the maker of that (old) mod and see if you can borrow his work.
The mod is in vanilla map, though.

16-06-2008, 07:07	#1
The Swert Yours Swertically Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 1,566 Blog Entries: 5	Medieval World Introducing a new medieval period mod for EUII... Medieval World Download v1.03 from here In a Nutshell: -Uses WATKABAOI map -Timeframe: 844AD-1337AD -Scenarios: 844, and in the future 1067 and 1205. -Ideally, it will allow conversion into the AoI scenarios allowing gameplay from 844 to 1914. (Yet to be implemented) Longer Explanation: This mod I originally planned to create for the MWATK map but that was never completed and it's current version is inadequate for a proper game. So i decided to use the next best thing, the WATKABAOI map. I then came up with an idea, wouldn't it be awesome if you could play a medieval scenario and then be able to convert it into a renaissance game. And then MedWorld was born. This mod is designed to, as best as possible, be converted into the WATKABAOI 1337 scenario. Ofcourse this is yet to be tested as the mod is not finished. Status and To-Do List: 1: add 876 scenario .............a) add european nations....................-done .............b) adjust known provinces.................-mostly done .............c) adjust religions............................-done for europe .............d) adjust diplomacy..........................-vassals only .............e) add asian nations.........................-done .............f) CoTs..........................................-done .............g) add armies..................................-basic 2: add AI files............................................. .-partial 3: adjust tech tables.....................................-done 4: add major events.......................................-prescribed european events, partially written 5: add monarch lists......................................-partial 6: add leader lists 7: add flags and shields..................................-partial 8: adjust national colours................................-done for starting nations 9: rewrite culture system................................-in progress 10: add 1067 scenario .............a) nation placement/tech...................-partial, Europe completed .............b) religions .............c) CoTs .............d) diplomacy/interaction 11: add 1205 scenario .............a) nation placement/tech .............b) religions .............c) CoTs .............d) diplomacy/interaction 12: add other events __________________ Swertic Tales --------------[The Book of Saint John Series]--------------- Volume I Volume II Volume III The Last Knights and the Book of St John --------------------more info at my Inkwell------------------- Medieval World 3 - EU2 LibrAARy - ACA Archive I was canonized 1/12/2008 Last edited by The Swert; 03-03-2009 at 13:47.

16-06-2008, 07:07	#2
The Swert Yours Swertically Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 1,566 Blog Entries: 5	844 layout (v1.02) ------ 1067 layout (v1.03) ----- 1205 layout (v1.03): -- -- Country ID tags (v0.1): red = to be included orange = reserved for later inclusion white = not included yellow = included (IO) = used in Il-Khanate option of 1337 scenario, cannot be used __________________ Swertic Tales --------------[The Book of Saint John Series]--------------- Volume I Volume II Volume III The Last Knights and the Book of St John --------------------more info at my Inkwell------------------- Medieval World 3 - EU2 LibrAARy - ACA Archive I was canonized 1/12/2008 Last edited by The Swert; 02-03-2009 at 07:49.

16-06-2008, 08:13	#3
Wari Bana Lt. General Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Antwerpen, EU Posts: 1,638	Wow! Looks good ! agc-what? a campaign from 876-1914... i'll be camping in front of the pc for weeks that way you'll need some sound triggering to get events to fire i guess after a couple of 100years of gameplay... __________________ Thy shalt not puttet Cheese on Every Thing Thy puttet in Thyne Microwave. Tonga - The Quest for Civilization Paradox Nocturama icq: 350 214 224 Last edited by Wari Bana; 16-06-2008 at 08:20.

16-06-2008, 08:35	#4
demokratickid Cisár všetkých Slovákov Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: USA Posts: 3,523 Blog Entries: 20	Zang! This looks likely to be a an excellent mod! __________________ MY AAR: Historia Slovakæ done in EU3. Last Update: January 19th, 2010 A.D. at 5:00 PM, EST AWARDED:● Irish Shamrock Cookie by King_Richard_XI My NEWER AND UBER AND IMPROVED Inkwell is right here for your enjoyment! *I'VE BEEN CANONIZED*

16-06-2008, 10:07	#5
Lord Finnish Oorah Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: European Confederation Posts: 4,996 Blog Entries: 2	Oooooh! A new EU2 mod!!! Is there a beta? I would love to play beta! Last edited by Lord Finnish; 16-06-2008 at 10:15.

16-06-2008, 10:38	#6
Blaster First Lieutenant Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 241	looks GREAT! __________________ myspace.com/blasteroslo \| Everyone's a pacifist between wars. It's like being a vegetarian between meals. (Colman McCarthy)

16-06-2008, 11:01	#7
The Swert Yours Swertically Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 1,566 Blog Entries: 5	Aye, Thanks for the quick replies, shows there's interest atleast. Although there's much to be done and many issues involved. One of the hardest decisions so far was what nations to include as separate nations. Medieval Europe was full of counties, dutchies, kingdoms and dynasties who were all really vassals of each other so its hard to decide what to separate and what not to (most visible with the Normandy and Norman England, same country or separate nations and when do they separate?). Then there's the issue of tribal groups which dominated Eastern Europe in this time. I've done my best so far to replicate a medieval world and obviously many many events are still needed to slowly progress the game towards its 1337 historical climax. I should say, i actually am unsure how you would go about converting this game into WATKABAOI, all i've done is ensured that all nations existing at the end of this mod are featured as starting nations in the 1337 WATKABAOI such that a conversion would be possible. Although there would still be much reconciliation required. I've used several other mods and discussion thereof for inspiration and at times have poached certain aspects from them including the Year 900 Scenario, IFU, Dark Ages and MES. I have also used some flags and shields by Kaigon which i found. I hope nobody objects to my using their work. I could use a hand in many areas: Creating monarch and leader files, i've found a good source on monarch names but then you need to give them ratings. Loads of events need writing, i've made a rough list of european events. The AI files of course, i'm not too experienced with programming AI. If you really want a beta i'll upload it soon. But note, many of the events have no descriptions yet. __________________ Swertic Tales --------------[The Book of Saint John Series]--------------- Volume I Volume II Volume III The Last Knights and the Book of St John --------------------more info at my Inkwell------------------- Medieval World 3 - EU2 LibrAARy - ACA Archive I was canonized 1/12/2008

16-06-2008, 11:32	#8
Blaster First Lieutenant Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 241	i'd be glad to help. contact me on msn. __________________ myspace.com/blasteroslo \| Everyone's a pacifist between wars. It's like being a vegetarian between meals. (Colman McCarthy)

16-06-2008, 12:40	#9
Lord Finnish Oorah Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: European Confederation Posts: 4,996 Blog Entries: 2	First "bug": In the download thread the "discussion here" links to the download, not this thread

16-06-2008, 12:46	#10
The Swert Yours Swertically Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 1,566 Blog Entries: 5	lol i forgot how to link things. fixed now. __________________ Swertic Tales --------------[The Book of Saint John Series]--------------- Volume I Volume II Volume III The Last Knights and the Book of St John --------------------more info at my Inkwell------------------- Medieval World 3 - EU2 LibrAARy - ACA Archive I was canonized 1/12/2008

16-06-2008, 12:50	#11
cool-toxic Alexander Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Denmark Posts: 4,909	Looks really good. Stuff like who you will convert the different nations that does not exist in WATKABAOI might be a bit hard, because I left like zero free nations. __________________ WATKABAOI 2.04 \| Arabia Universalis 2.00 - Forum \| Cool-Toxic's Flag Tutorial for EU2

16-06-2008, 13:34	#13
wryun Lt. General Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Finnsburh, Australia Posts: 1,469	What was incomplete about the MWATK map? (just curious) __________________ "Hwær eart þu nu gefera?" and him andwyrde þæt heafod "Her, her, her..."

16-06-2008, 21:17	#15
wryun Lt. General Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Finnsburh, Australia Posts: 1,469	Ah, that's a shame. Would have thought that anyone who knows about map-making could have fixed that one. __________________ "Hwær eart þu nu gefera?" and him andwyrde þæt heafod "Her, her, her..."

18-06-2008, 10:19	#16
Kasperus Field Marshmallow Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Nieuw Vennep, the Netherlands Posts: 4,332 Blog Entries: 1	So would I, since I'm pretty sure that I told the interested parties what I thought would be needed to fix the problem... But I guess using an already finalized and well-developed map as watkabaoi is better for any mod developed nowadays that to have to spend weeks if not months to get mwatk on the same level (I know I wouldn't bother myself ) __________________ my FTG projects: World According to Kasperus - EU2 project updated to FTG, currently working on watk 4 map. my EU2 projects: World According to Kasperus - Old thread & links repository for watk 3.x Medieval World According to Kasperus - aka MWATK, medieval map, originally designed for MES (4 feb. 2009 version - map only!) Mongol Empire Scenario - old thread (mod for 1.08) - Atm no download links

01-07-2008, 21:03	#18
Lord Finnish Oorah Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: European Confederation Posts: 4,996 Blog Entries: 2	Any progress? Can't wait to unite Britain and whoop some Danes __________________ THE SAUNA - Finno-Ugric social group! Survive, thrive and revive!

02-07-2008, 05:03	#19
The Swert Yours Swertically Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 1,566 Blog Entries: 5	I'm working on a new version, although it's not finished yet. I got some AI now and I had trial run of things the other day for about 30 years and the British definitely had fun against the Danes. I'll try release v0.2 soon. Although if anybody knows anything about 9th Century history I would appreciate any help. __________________ Swertic Tales --------------[The Book of Saint John Series]--------------- Volume I Volume II Volume III The Last Knights and the Book of St John --------------------more info at my Inkwell------------------- Medieval World 3 - EU2 LibrAARy - ACA Archive I was canonized 1/12/2008

02-07-2008, 11:08	#20
Lord Finnish Oorah Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: European Confederation Posts: 4,996 Blog Entries: 2	Exploring my mod launcher, noticed a mod called "Dark Ages". You could contact the maker of that (old) mod and see if you can borrow his work. The mod is in vanilla map, though. __________________ THE SAUNA - Finno-Ugric social group! Survive, thrive and revive!