Timurids and Mughals

[Jer8m8]

Do the Mughals still inherit the Timurids? I'm playing as Vijanagara, and its 1600. Babur still rules the Timurids, which are allied with the Mughals (once was Kabul) and Delhi...

Is this WaD?

[Garbon]

Originally Posted by Jer8m8

Do the Mughals still inherit the Timurids? I'm playing as Vijanagara, and its 1600. Babur still rules the Timurids, which are allied with the Mughals (once was Kabul) and Delhi...

Is this WaD?

This is intentional on the Timurids not being inherited bit. The Mughals shouldn't suddenly inherit the Timurids in the event that the Uzbeks never took Samarkand. I'm hoping to look through my sources again and find plausible alt-history Timurid monarchs, so that you don't have the perpetual Babur.

Also, I plan to make a FAQ soon for Timurid players that explains the chain of events for the region as its quite different from how it use to be.

[Jer8m8]

It just feels weird fighting an alliance of Delhi, Mughals, and Timurids. I guess that's what happens when theres no Portugal to muck things up in the Indian Ocean...(annexed by Spain)

[Garbon]

Originally Posted by Jer8m8

It just feels weird fighting an alliance of Delhi, Mughals, and Timurids. I guess that's what happens when theres no Portugal to muck things up in the Indian Ocean...(annexed by Spain)

I mean thats definitely ungood. Perhaps if the Timurids still exist past a certain date, the Mughals should get a core on Samarkand, to simulate the fact that many emperors wanted that territory back. I'm unsure what to make of the Mughal-Delhi bit though.

[YodaMaster]

Originally Posted by Garbon

Also, I plan to make a FAQ soon for Timurid players that explains the chain of events for the region as its quite different from how it use to be.

Good idea .

[Garbon]

Okay here's a basic breakdown of the Timurid history in-game. Let me know if you have any questions and in that event, I could make this a real FAQ.

The majority of Shah Rukh’s reign should be pretty smooth sailing. With the Empire’s very bad reputation, expanding during this period is a rather bad option unless the Timurids want to risk being attacked from all sides. The best bet for the Timurids is to build up their north eastern provinces around Samarkand in preparation for the hell that will break loose upon the death of Shah Rukh. After breaking into three separate Timurid states, the Timurids will get a brief reprieve in the form of capable monarch, Abu Said. Much in the same way as Shah Rukh, though, the death of Abu Said will herald another period of decline. Upon Abu Said’s death, the Timurid Empire was divided between his five sons and usurping distant relations in Khorasan. From here the Timurid Empire historically met its dead end. Another Timurid prince, Babur, managed to hold Samarkand for a brief period of time; however, he eventually had to flee to form an empire centered around Kabul. If the Timurids had not been forced out of Samarkand, the Mughal Empire that went on to take India may as well never have been founded. (In order to form the Mughals, as the Timurid Empire, you need to re-capture Kabul and let the Uzbeks take Samarkand... or "simply" reload as Kabul).

[YodaMaster]

It seems to be clear. But it was difficult to understand last sentence because of the two "as". I understand:
In order to form the Mughals, as the Timurid Empire, you need to re-capture Kabul and let the Uzbeks take Samarkand... or "simply" reload as Kabul.

Right?

[Garbon]

Originally Posted by YodaMaster

It seems to be clear. But it was difficult to understand last sentence because of the two "as". I understand:
In order to form the Mughals, as the Timurid Empire, you need to re-capture Kabul and let the Uzbeks take Samarkand... or "simply" reload as Kabul.

Right?

Right.

[Arilou]

Interesting