1919 - Poland and the Baltics

[roberd]

Originally Posted by Zaan

Roberd, where to put these files exactly? I've been pasting them into what logically seems right (meaning scenarios/1919/db/parties for example) but the parties still won't load. Don't you need to declare that file in some other one?

.../paradox entertainment/Victoria/db/parties

[Zaan]

Ok, they work now. Had a close look on the parties and decided to modify the file a bit. Tell me what do you think about these changes:
- First of all I just copy pasted the parties into POL_party.csv, and modified the dates so now some of them also work in the normal campaign (for example endecja starting in 1893 and so on)
- You only put one PSL party in, so I decided to create the missing factions of them. So now there is PSL-Piast (the one made by roberd) from 1913 to 1931. PSL-Lewica a weak faction from 1913 to 1922 and Stronnictwo Ludowe when these two and some other peasant parties unified in 1931. About the party program I changed like one point only to differ from roberds PSL (now PSL-Piast). I don't know however why you decided to give them liberal ideology?
- I changed OWP ideology to reactionary, cause they were quite a radical party, coming close to fascist ideas sometimes.
- Lastly, I couldn't find anyhting on "Wolność" ukrainian party, I assume (via the deathdate) that it is a predecessor of UNDO, though my search on pwn.pl was without the desired result. Where did you find it roberd?

PS Concerning Polish events. I stopped creating them for a while. For most of them to work I need the situation in russia clarified. I'll include the constitution though in the .inc file today of tomorrow.

[roberd]

Napisze ci po Polsku. Ukraińska Wolność-grupa terrorystyczna. Moze nie jest taka ważna i pominołem ważniejszą partie Komunistyczna Partia Zachodniej Ukrainy(od grudnia 1924)

[Zaan]

Ok, no problem then. I'm about to wirte a constitution in the polish .inc file. Here's what it'll look like. Comments are welcome (it's why I even bother to write this actually ).

POLAND in January 1919
Government type: Presidential dictatorship (Pllsudski as the Head of State "Naczelnik Panstwa", though the gabinet held much power, it could all be overridden by Pilsudskis orders).
Exec. form: Laws by decree
Party System: Multi-party
Value: Liberty
Ruling party: PPS (Polska Partia Socjalistyczna with Prime Minister Jedrzej Moraczewski, dismissed on 16th of January when the gabinet passed onto Narodowa Demokracja's arms)

Political reforms:
Voting rights: universal suffrage
Public meetings: yes
Press rights: Free press
Parties: Right to ban
Unions: all allowed

Social reforms:
Minimum wages: none
Max. work hours: 8 h. / day (shortest in Europe in 1919)
Safety regulations: Low
Health care: Low
Unemployment subsidies: Acceptable
Pension Funds: Acceptable

[Nerfix]

/selfspank

Ok, here they are, finaly:

Finland Estoniasm events

This one is for Estonia:

Finland-Estoniasm(triggered in 1922 or so)

Finland and Estonia are two countries with strong ties. Their language is extremely similar and they are considered "brother people". Finland supported the Estonians in their Vapaussota, "War of Freedom". In the early twenties a thought of Finland-Estoniasm was born: Finland and Estonia were to be a single country. The Estonians were considerably more enthusiastic than the Finns.

We shall be one!

Militancy -2 for people in Estonia

Trigger the Finland-Estoniasm event for Finland

No, we stand on our own feet!

+5 prestige
+1 militancy for people in Estonia

For Finland

Finland and Estonia are two countries with strong ties. Their language is extremely similar and they are considered "brother people". Finland supported the Estonians in their Vapaussota, "War of Freedom". In the early twenties a thought of Finland-Estoniasm was born: Finland and Estonia were to be a single country. The Estonians were considerably more enthusiastic than the Finns. Historiacly the Finns rejected the efforts

No, we want to continue on our own road

-1 militancy for people in Finland

Alas!

Annex Estonia
Gain the Estonian stateculture
+2 militancy for Conservative and Reactionary in Finland

Does it look like there is no sense in rejecting the Finland-Estoniasm... Well, there was some diplomatic reasons back then and the annezationwill propably simulate it well enough.

[Nerfix]

Uuuh, uuuh, now we're talking!

For whoever controls the aproriate province)

Oil shale!(1924 or so)

Estonia started to use its oil shale deposits, located in Pärnau(not 100% sure) in the twenties. Oil shale can be used as coal for fuel or it can be cracked to produce oil.

Oil shale!

Province Pärnau(? the easternmost coastal province) will now produce Oil(1.0 is proapbly aproriate amount)
+10 Oil
+10 Coal

[Zaan]

A word about the downside of aneexing Estonia. If I'm correct this would very much annoy the soviets, so maybe a severe drop in relations with the USSR for Finland (but, can they be any worse?), or trigger an event in which the soviets have choice to intervene or back off.

[Nerfix]

Annexing countries causes relation drop with your neigbours so I don't know if it is worth an event. Could be.

[teddybbeer]

bunch of historical facts about estonia in '20s, some1 whit clue could convert them to events

1920 Landreform, more then 50000 farms created.
1920 15.june first estonian constitutional law.
1921 Estonia was accepted into League of Nations.
1922 V. Kingissepp, leader of Estonian Communist Partie was executed.
1924 1. dec Communists tried coup in Tallinn, they failed in 6 hours, after that communist movement in estonia ended.
1926 18. dec first radiostation began regular broadcasts.
1928 1. jan moneyreform. estonian currency stands now in strong international basis (or how it is correctly spelled...)
1928 estonia began building oil shale industry (in vicky its in narva)
1929-33 economical crisis (like in rest of the world)
1932 4.jan nonagression pact whit soviet union.

couple things more: after 1924 year coup attempt nationalism were stronger in estonia than ever bfore..

and few things about estonian independencewar: 1918 12. dec arrived british cruiser fleet under admiral Alexander-Sinclair to Tallinn. at same evening he had meeting whit estonian prime minister Päts who offered that estonia will be come under british protectorate
Estonia asked also weapons, supplies and some ground troops (about 6000 men) to help reorganize estonian army. TRoops were denied but great deal of weapons and ammonition arrived.

[Nerfix]

teddybbeer: Thanks a lot, I didn't know when the oil shale industry began. In Finland we have this thing called "perstuntumalta heittäminen".

The land reform should obviously increase the effect of the cattle RGO's. The most of Estonian provinces produce cattle, don't they?

[Nerfix]

Date correction:

The very first Finland-Estoniasm event should be triggered in 21.3.1925

[Zaan]

Ok, here's the first batch of Polish events (and one soviet). If anyone wishes to discuss them please do so here. I'll post some further events tomorrow, however the work is far from done.

##Polish 1919-1933 events by Zaan##

#Paderewski made Prime Minister
event = {
    id = 244500
    random = no
    country = POL
    name = "Ignacy Paderewski appointed Prime Minister"
    desc = "Ignacy Jan Paderewski was appointed as prime minister on th 16th of January 1919 following the dismissal of 

Moraczewski gabinet. The discontent of the dismissed PM's government was country-wide, and even incited a coup attempt on 

January 5th, which however failed miserably. The dismissal came only 10 days before election day to the sejm and by many 

was viewed as a complete capitulation of PPS and other left-wing parties. By appointing the acknowledged pianist and 

patriot Paderewski Head of State Pilsudski wanted to ensure a pro-western policy that would appeal to Roman Dmowski and 

the Komitet Narodowy Polski in Paris."
    picture = default
    date = { day = 16 month = january year = 1919 }
    offset = 0
    deathdate = { day = 16 month = january year = 1919 }
    action_a = {
        Name = "A good candidate"
        command = { type = set_ruling_party which = 2401 } #Assuming the use of modified pol party file by roberd and me
        command = { type = pop_militancy which = labourers value = -1 }
        command = { type = pop_militancy which = craftsmen value = -1 }
        command = { type = pop_militancy which = farmers value = -1 }
    }
}

#Commies occupy Vilnus
event = {
    id = 251500
    random = no
    country = RUS #assuming we use the RUS tag for the soviets. Im' still for using the RUS tag for Czarist faction and a 

user defined one for USSR
    trigger = {
        atwar = LIT
        control = { province = 442 data = -1  }
    }
    name = "Institution of the Belarussian-Lithuanian Soviet Republic"
    desc = "The Red Army took control of Vilnus in early January 1919 and began to institute a Soviet Republic on the 

occupied lands of Lithuania and Belarus. The new Soviet republic sent a clear signal to neighbouring countries, 

especially Poland and Latvia, that, in time, the revolution would also reach them."
    picture = default
    date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1919 }
    offset = 30
    deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1919 }
    action_a = {
        Name = "Institue the republic! Let's pave the way for the Revolution!"
        ai_chance = 99
        command = { type = trigger which = 244501 }
        command = { type = relation which = POL value = -50 }
        command = { type = relation which = LIV value = -50 }
        command = { type = relation which = LIT value = -100 }
    }
    action_b = {
        Name = "The Lithuanians already learned their lesson. We don't need more enemies."
        ai_chance = 1
        command = { type = peace which = LIT value = 0 }
        command = { type = relation which = POL value = 20 }
        command = { type = relation which = LIV value = 20 }
    }
}

#War with the Bolsheviks
event = {
    id = 244501
    random = no
    country = POL
    name = "The Bolshevik Question"
    desc = "Despite the good signs in Polish-Soviet relations in 1918, such as canceling the partition and Brest 

treaties, the events of early 1919 created a 180 degree turn in these. Polish nationalists were enraged when the Soviets 

occupied Vilnus and instituted a Soviet Republic there. Still the biggest punch was to be thrown by the poles when 

communist Bronislaw Wesolowski arrested a soviet Red Cross mission inside Poland. Upon escorting the mission back to the 

border all the members, aside one, were murdered. Poland and Soviet Russia stood on a brink of open war."
    picture = default
    offset = 30
    action_a = {
        Name = "We must defend ourselves from the revolution!"
        command = { type = war which = RUS }
        command = { type = pop_dominant_issue which = 100 value = jingoism }
        command = { type = prestige value = 20 } #Offset to loss by DoW
    }
    action_b = {
        Name = "The soviets do not pose a direct threat"
        command = { type = pop_dominant_issue which = 100 value = anti_military }
    }
}

#The Little Constitution
event = {
    id = 244502
    random = no
    country = POL
    name = "The Little Consitution"
    desc = "The first major decisions by the newly elected Sejm were made on the 20th of February when the members of 

parliament passed the so-called "Little Constitution". The constitution was no more than a simple act, which set up a new 

structure of the authorities as well as drew the line between the Head of State and Prime Minister. Pilsudski regained 

some of his powers, however many of them were passed on to the Prime Minister. The Little Constitution created an 

administration more viable for the western powers."
    picture = default
    date = { day = 20 month = february year = 1919 }
    action_a = {
        Name = "Pass the bill"
        command = { type = relation which = FRA value = 15 }
    }
    action_b = {
        Name = "Revoke the bill"
        command = { type = pop_militancy which = socialist value = 1 where = -1 }
        command = { type = pop_militancy which = socialist value = 1 where = -1 }
        command = { type = pop_militancy which = socialist value = 1 where = -1 }
    }
}

#The Polish army
event = {
    id = 244503
    random = no
    country = POL
    trigger = {
        atwar = yes
    }
    name = "The Polish army"
    desc = "Due to the ongoing war with Western Ukraine and recently also with Soviet Russia, it was made clear that the 

current, quickly assembled and ill-equipped armed forces were not enough for Polish needs. There were two conceptions of 

the new army. Pilsudski wanted to create an army staffed with officers loyal to him since fighting in The Great War. ZLN 

and Paderewski on the other hand demanded the return of general Haller's Blue Army from France. The Blue Army, 50,000 

strong, was experienced and well equipped, however they were far away. Pilsudski's men were here, but they also needed 

someone to command. In the end a compromise was reached - the Blue Army would return ASAP while the French officers 

currently serving in her ranks would be replaced by Pilsudski's candidates."
    picture = default
    date = { day = 1 month = march year = 1919 }
    offset = 30
    deathdate = { day = 30 month = may year = 1919 }
    action_a = {
        Name = "We will wait for Haller"
        command = { type = add_division which = infantry value = regular }
        command = { type = add_division which = infantry value = regular }
        command = { type = leadership value = 20 }
    }
    action_b = {
        Name = "We need an army now!"
        command = { type = add_division which = infantry value = regular }
        command = { type = add_division which = infantry value = regular }
        command = { type = add_division which = infantry value = regular }
        command = { type = build_division which = infantry value = regular }
        command = { type = build_division which = infantry value = regular }
#	command = { type = sleepevent which = 24450  }
#	command = { type = sleepleader which = Haller, when I make him }
    }
}

#General Strike
event = {
    id = 244504
    random = no
    country = POL
    name = "General Strike"
    desc = "On their last meeting, left-wing parties in Poland the PPS, KPRP and some minor ones, like the Bund, decided 

to organize a general strike on 13th of March. The strike supposed to show the discontent of the working classes, mainly 

the peasants, and urge the Paderewski gabinet to take action in passing new acts, such as the awaited agrarian reform. 

However due to bad blood between the socialist PPS and communist KPRP in the last hours before the strike the former 

withdrew it support, which resulted in a huge tone down of the strike itself."
    picture = default
    date = { day = 13 month = march year = 1919 }
    offset = 0
    action_a = {
        Name = "The masses are grumbling..."
        command = { type = pop_militancy which = farmers value = 2 }
        command = { type = pop_militancy which = labourers value = 2 }
        command = { type = pop_militancy which = craftsmen value = 2 }
    }
}

I also made some changes to the .inc file and the political party file (roberd, I already said my proposed changes, and since you didn't disagree I went through with them).

[Strategist]

Can you also email them to me?

[unknown-X-]

comments on the Estonian-Finnish events:

1) Estonia-Finland merger event:

True, our nations share similar culture(finnish-ugric) , language and have always felt sympathy against each other, but this is how far things go. Plans for united Estonian-Finnish, Finnish-Estonia state are nothing else but fiction. There are thousands of political and economical reasons/problems/issues/obstcles that make it impossible(russia would have never allowed such union!!!), then there is natsionalism(Estonians are not finns and finns are not estonians!!!) and etc. Besides finnish politics was rather more scandinavia orientated in 20's, tough they helped to improve cooperation between baltic states. Anyway, i would be more than happy to write some events for latvia, estonia. i'll keep ye posted!

[Zaan]

Again I have to apologize for my long absence. Fact is, that I simply can't find much time to script the events. Aside from those above I have a word document, in which I sketched some events, but didn't code them. If anyone would be willing to do some scripting I can send the file. There is however one good thing in school catching up with me, I'm going to prepare for exams in History now and I should dig up more events on Poland and it's closest neighbours.

[Zuckergußgebäck]

Cant you just post the 'scetches' here?

[Zaan]

Sure thing,

- The Wielkopolska Uprising. Event for Germany. Early January 1919
In December 1918 the Polish community in Wielkopolska, disgruntled by the fact that despite the war, they were still under German rule decided to begin an armed struggle. The uprising began in Posen on the 27th December and by New Years Eve the rebels had the city firmly under control. The last German stronghold, the Lawica Airfield, fell on the 6th of January as the insurgents gained more and more support from the local populace.
a) Damn them! (+4 militancy rise for Polish in Posen).
Note: In the beginning of the scenario there should be an army of 20000 rebels in Posen.

- Armistice with the Wielkopolska rebels. Event for Germany. Until June 1919. Trigger when Posen and Gniezno under rebel control.
When the German army finally reacted to put down the rebels in Wielkopolska they had little success. The uprising achieved its goal and local Poles clearly stated their intentions of uniting with Poland. German government was under pressure form western powers, especially France and marshal Foch to end the armed intervention and sign a truce. Armistice talks were on the 16th of February in Trier and assured that the insurgent statements were met. Wielkopolska joined Poland in June when the Versailles treaty was signed.
a) We are defeated (-4 militancy for Polish in Posen)

- Conflict over Cieszyn. Event for Czechoslovakia. Jan-Feb 1919. Trigger when Poland is at war with W. Ukraine
When the Habsburg empire fell most of the Cieszyn region was seized by Poland despite the sizeable Czech population there. Through 1918 and 1919 the Czech government tired to get Cieszyn back. An opportunity arisen in early 1919 when Poland was involved in conflicts with West Ukraine and Soviet Russia. On 23rd January Czech forces seized the region, however the Polish side did appeal to the western powers about this conflict.
a) Cieszyn is our land (trigger “Conflict over Cieszyn” for Poland -70 relation with Poland)
b) Back down (remove claim, sleep further chain events, +30 relation with Poland, more anti-military)
Note: Poland should by at war with W. Ukraine from the start. Hostilities between those two nations began in late 1918.

- Conflict over Cieszyn. Event for Poland in response to Czechoslovakia taking action.
When the Habsburg empire fell most of the Cieszyn region was seized by Poland despite the sizeable Czech population there. Through 1918 and 1919 the Czech government tired to get Cieszyn back. An opportunity arisen in early 1919 when Poland was involved in conflicts with West Ukraine and Soviet Russia. On 23rd January Czech forces seized the region, however the Polish side did appeal to the western powers about this conflict.
a) This is an outrage! (trigger “Conflict over Cieszyn” for France, +2 militancy for Polish in Cieszyn)
b) We already have enough problems (remove claim, sleep further chain events -10 prestige)
c) Declare war (chance 1%, war with Czechoslovakia, more Jingoist)

- Conflict over Cieszyn. Event for France in response to hostilities. Big offset
When the Habsburg empire fell most of the Cieszyn region was seized by Poland despite the sizeable Czech population there. When the Czechs seized the region in January Poland decided to appeal to the western powers. France and Britain first forced a truce between the nations and then decided to hold a poll in the contested region. In 1920 due to Poland losing the war with Soviet Russia the poll idea was dropped and a border was established giving more to Czechoslovakia than to Poland.
a) This is Czech land (75% chance, +20 relation rise with Czechs)
b) This is Polish land (25% chance, +20 relation with Poland, trigger “The fate of Cieszyn” event for Czechoslovakia)

- The fate of Cieszyn. Event for Czechoslovakia firing right after the French decision.
Due to the Polish appeal the western powers convened and decided the fate of Cieszyn. The fact it was taken by an unprovoked act of aggression means we have to give the land back to the Polish.
a) Darn! (secede Cieszyn to Poland, prestige -20, -20 relation with France)

- The Versailles Treaty: Polish-German border. France. 28th June 1919.
The matter of settling the Polish-German border in the Versailles Treaty was given to Frenchman Jules Martin Cambon. His proposition included giving Poland directly the land given to Wielkopolska by Germans in the treaty of Trier, Danzig and Upper Silesia and hold a poll in East Prussia. This proposal raised the objections of the British PM Lloyd George and US President Woodrow Wilson. France was too weak to stand up to such an opposition and in the end Danzig was made an independent state and polls were to be held not only in East Prussia but also in Upper Silesia.
a) Agree to British and US demands. (Trigger “The Versailles Treaty. Polish-German border (I)” for Germany. -10 relations with UK and US)
b) Accpet Cambon’s proposal. (Trigger “The Versailles Treaty. Polish-German border (II)” for Germany. Prestige +15. -40 relations with UK and US, +20 relations with Poland, sleep “Poll in Upper Silesia” and Silesia uprisings)

- The Versailles Treaty. Polish-German border (I). Germany, triggered via event
The Versailles Treaty settled the disputed Polish border by forcing Germany to give away Posen and East Pommern. Though the French wanted more losses, the British and American delegates in Paris intervened so Danzig was to be made independent and polls would be held in the next year in Upper Silesia and East Prussia where the residents would decide which country to join.
a) A just solution (secede state Posen and provinces Elbing and Torun to Poland. Grant independence to Danzig)

- The Versailles Treaty. Polish-German border (II). Germany, triggered via event
The Versailles Treaty forced Germany to give away huge chunks of land to Poland. Though Britain and United States wanted Germany to give away less, the French finally forced their own ideas. Germany was to give away Posen, East Pommern and Upper Silesia while a poll would be held in 1920 in East Prussia to let the residents of that region decide which nation to join.
a) Damn those French (secede state Posen and provinces Elbing, Danzig, Torun, Kattowitz and Gleiwitz to Poland. -30 relations with France)

[Rey]

Hey are we going to use Zaan's events?

[Rey]

[Zuckergußgebäck]

This means that south Silesia shouldn´t be given to Poland in Versailles...