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29-04-2004, 13:54
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Sergeant
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 75
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1066 Bohemia
EDIT: Revision for historical accurate startup positions ready for version 1.03a
color coding change remove add changes in common files: db\dynasties Code:
dynasty = {
id = { type = 12 id = 707 }
name = "Premyslid"
}
Code:
446;PROV446;Morava;Germany;Donau;0;Hills;0;german;3;OSTE;GERM;NONE;NONE;NONE;4500;2689;4553;2685;4510;2673;4461;2663;-100;-100;0;-100;-100;0;-100;-100;0;-100;-100;0;4505;2658;-1;-1;-1;-1;-1;-1;-1;-1;-1;-1;-1;-1;-1;-1;-1;-1 *_scenario_titles.inc Code:
title = {
tag = C438
tier = county
liege = DBOH
holder = {
character = { type = 10 id = 526 }
startdate = {
year = 1066
month = january
day = 0
}
}
}
title = {
tag = C441
tier = county
liege = DBOH
holder = {
character = { type = 10 id = 500008 }
startdate = {
year = 1066
month = january
day = 0
}
}
}
title = {
tag = C440
tier = county
liege = DBOH
holder = {
character = { type = 10 id = 524 }
startdate = {
year = 1066
month = january
day = 0
}
}
}
Code:
province = {
id = 438
culture = bohemian
religion = catholic
privileges = {
peasants = 1
burghers = 1
clergy = 1
nobles = 1
}
loyalty = {
peasants = 1
burghers = 1
clergy = 1
nobles = 1
}
improvements = {
hill_fort = yes
}
advances = {
hill_fort = yes
}
}
province = {
id = 440
culture = bohemian
religion = catholic
privileges = {
peasants = 1
burghers = 1
clergy = 1
nobles = 1
}
loyalty = {
peasants = 1
burghers = 1
clergy = 1
nobles = 1
}
improvements = {
hill_fort = yes
}
advances = {
hill_fort = yes
}
}
province = {
id = 441
culture = bohemian
religion = catholic
privileges = {
peasants = 1
burghers = 1
clergy = 1
nobles = 1
}
loyalty = {
peasants = 1
burghers = 1
clergy = 1
nobles = 1
}
improvements = {
church = yes
hill_fort = yes
}
advances = {
hill_fort = yes
basilican_structures = yes
brickwork_structures = yes
}
}
Code:
country = {
tag = DBOH
form_of_goverment = feudal
capital = 437
ruler = {
startdate = { year = 1066 month = january day = 1 }
character = { type = 10 id = 522 }
}
controlledprovinces = {
437
439
363
436
362
}
laws = {
salic_consanguinity_law = yes
traditional_custom_law = yes
regal_supremacy = yes
}}
country = {
tag = C441
form_of_goverment = ecclestical
capital = 441
ruler = {
startdate = { year = 1066 month = january day = 1 }
character = { type = 10 id = 500008 }
}
controlledprovinces = {
441
}
}
country = {
tag = C438
form_of_goverment = feudal
capital = 438
ruler = {
startdate = { year = 1066 month = january day = 1 }
character = { type = 10 id = 526 }
}
controlledprovinces = {
438
}
}
country = {
tag = C440
form_of_goverment = feudal
capital = 440
ruler = {
startdate = { year = 1066 month = january day = 1 }
character = { type = 10 id = 524 }
}
controlledprovinces = {
440
}
}
Code:
just DNA change
C440 = {
gender = male
type = county
dna = "20239310708275"
title = { C440 }
}
remove C441 (now bishopric)
C441 = {
gender = male
type = county
dna = "92033897067128"
title = { C441 }
}
and add C438 (now county)
C438 = {
gender = male
type = county
dna = "92033897067128"
title = { C438 }
}
Code:
changes to Premyslides
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 500 }
name = "Borivoj I"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id =707 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
birthdate = { year = 836 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 895 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "79527383570332"
attributes = {
martial = 7
diplomacy = 8
intrigue = 6
stewardship = 5
health = 7
fertility = 5
}
traits = {
deceitful = yes
sceptical = yes
harelip = yes
fortune_builder = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 501 }
name = "St. Ludmila"
gender = female
dynasty = { type = 12 id =250 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
birthdate = { year = 844 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 927 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "66283373943072"
attributes = {
martial = 7
diplomacy = 7
intrigue = 5
stewardship = 8
health = 5
fertility = 5
}
traits = {
chaste = yes
forgiving = yes
honest = yes
just = yes
merciful = yes
modest = yes
zealous = yes
wise = yes
temperate = yes
valorous = yes
saint = yes
scholarly_theologian = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 502 }
name = "Spytihnev I"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id =707 }
father = { type = 10 id = 500 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 501 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
birthdate = { year = 875 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 915 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "51386188063036"
attributes = {
martial = 6
diplomacy = 4
intrigue = 5
stewardship = 8
health = 7
fertility = 4
}
traits = {
forgiving = yes
deceitful = yes
knowledged_tactician = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 504 }
name = "Vratislav I"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id =707 }
father = { type = 10 id = 500 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 501 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
birthdate = { year = 888 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 921 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "45871176695330"
attributes = {
martial = 6
diplomacy = 6
intrigue = 8
stewardship = 7
health = 4
fertility = 4
}
traits = {
modest = yes
martial_cleric = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 505 }
name = "Drahomira"
gender = female
dynasty = { type = 12 id = 100364 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = westernslavic
birthdate = { year = 890 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 935 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "18272760984577"
attributes = {
martial = 4
diplomacy = 8
intrigue = 5
stewardship = 7
health = 5
fertility = 7
}
traits = {
energetic = yes
suspicious = yes
charismatic_negotiator = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 506 }
name = "St Vaclav"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id =707 }
father = { type = 10 id = 504 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 505 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
birthdate = { year = 907 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 935 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "74342257749197"
attributes = {
martial = 7
diplomacy = 6
intrigue = 5
stewardship = 6
health = 5
fertility = 5
}
traits = {
chaste = yes
forgiving = yes
honest = yes
just = yes
merciful = yes
modest = yes
zealous = yes
wise = yes
temperate = yes
valorous = yes
saint = yes
knowledged_tactician = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 508 }
name = "Boleslav I the Cruel"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id =707 }
father = { type = 10 id = 504 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 505 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
birthdate = { year = 912 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 973 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "56413063957358"
attributes = {
martial = 6
diplomacy = 7
intrigue = 6
stewardship = 4
health = 5
fertility = 4
}
traits = {
lisp = yes
flamboyant_schemer = yes
kinslayer = yes
cruel = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 509 }
name = "Dubravka"
gender = female
dynasty = { type = 12 id =707 }
father = { type = 10 id = 508 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 500000 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
birthdate = { year = 931 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 977 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "79211556633850"
attributes = {
martial = 7
diplomacy = 8
intrigue = 5
stewardship = 4
health = 4
fertility = 6
}
traits = {
proud = yes
suspicious = yes
scholarly_theologian = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 510 }
name = "Boleslav II the Pious"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id =707 }
father = { type = 10 id = 508 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 500000 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
birthdate = { year = 935 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 999 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "65747188651789"
attributes = {
martial = 7
diplomacy = 6
intrigue = 7
stewardship = 6
health = 7
fertility = 4
}
traits = {
fortune_builder = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 512 }
name = "Boleslav III the Red"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id =707 }
father = { type = 10 id = 510 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 500001 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
birthdate = { year = 976 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 1035 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "04349412074457"
attributes = {
martial = 4
diplomacy = 6
intrigue = 5
stewardship = 6
health = 8
fertility = 6
}
traits = {
forgiving = yes
tough_soldier = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 514 }
name = "Jaromir"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id =707 }
father = { type = 10 id = 510 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 500002 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
birthdate = { year = 978 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 1035 month = january day = 2 }
dna = "36246453380618"
attributes = {
martial = 5
diplomacy = 7
intrigue = 5
stewardship = 6
health = 7
fertility = 6
}
traits = {
honest = yes
knowledged_tactician = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 516 }
name = "Oldrich"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id =707 }
father = { type = 10 id = 510 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 500002 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
birthdate = { year = 980 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 1034 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "88579603288552"
attributes = {
martial = 8
diplomacy = 8
intrigue = 6
stewardship = 7
health = 8
fertility = 7
}
traits = {
lustful = yes
knowledged_tactician = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 518 }
name = "Bretislav I"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id =707 }
father = { type = 10 id = 516 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 500003 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
birthdate = { year = 1002 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 1055 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "98522787780493"
attributes = {
martial = 9
diplomacy = 4
intrigue = 6
stewardship = 6
health = 5
fertility = 7
}
traits = {
deceitful = yes
tough_soldier = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 520 }
name = "Spytihnev II"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id =707 }
father = { type = 10 id = 518 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 1437 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
birthdate = { year = 1031 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 1061 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "90841478246991"
attributes = {
martial = 8
diplomacy = 4
intrigue = 8
stewardship = 6
health = 4
fertility = 6
}
traits = {
knowledged_tactician = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 522 }
name = "Vratislav II"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id =707 }
father = { type = 10 id = 518 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 1437 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
score = { gold = 125 prestige = 100 piety = 100 }
birthdate = { year = 1032 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 1092 month = january day = 14 }
dna = "03860758811054"
attributes = {
martial = 8
diplomacy = 5
intrigue = 4
stewardship = 7
health = 5
fertility = 7
}
traits = {
just = yes
vengeful = yes
knowledged_tactician = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 524 }
name = "Oto"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id =707 }
father = { type = 10 id = 518 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 1437 }
country = C440
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
score = { gold = 25 prestige = 100 piety = 100 }
birthdate = { year = 1041 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 1087 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "20239310708275"
attributes = {
martial = 5
diplomacy = 4
intrigue = 5
stewardship = 5
health = 2
fertility = 5
}
traits = {
generous = yes
proud = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 526 }
name = "Konrad"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id =707 }
father = { type = 10 id = 518 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 1437 }
country = C438
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
score = { gold = 25 prestige = 100 piety = 100 }
birthdate = { year = 1035 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 1092 month = september day = 6 }
dna = "92033897067128"
attributes = {
martial = 8
diplomacy = 5
intrigue = 4
stewardship = 5
health = 5
fertility = 8
}
traits = {
forgiving = yes
trusting = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 528 }
name = "Jaromir"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id =707 }
father = { type = 10 id = 518 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 1437 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
score = { piety = 50 }
birthdate = { year = 1039 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 1092 month = september day = 26 }
dna = "78504756213115"
attributes = {
martial = 3
diplomacy = 9
intrigue = 7
stewardship = 6
health = 5
fertility = 4
}
traits = {
scholarly_theologian = yes
suspicious = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 530 }
name = "Bretislav"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id =707 }
father = { type = 10 id = 522 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 477 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
birthdate = { year = 1057 month = january day = 12 }
deathdate = { year = 1100 month = december day = 22 }
dna = "81887453069527"
attributes = {
martial = 8
diplomacy = 4
intrigue = 8
stewardship = 8
health = 7
fertility = 6
}
traits = {
forgiving = yes
suspicious = yes
harelip = yes
court_education = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 1437 }
name = "Judith"
gender = female
dynasty = { type = 12 id =653 }
father = { type = 10 id = 1434 }
country = C134
religion = catholic
culture = German
birthdate = { year = 1007 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 1058 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "27573734554004"
attributes = {
martial = 5
diplomacy = 7
intrigue = 6
stewardship = 7
health = 5
fertility = 7
}
traits = {
arbitrary = yes
naive_wirepuller = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 8500 }
name = "Boleslav "
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id =707 }
father = { type = 10 id = 522 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 477 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
birthdate = { year = 1061 month = november day = 14 }
deathdate = { year = 1091 month = august day = 11 }
dna = "50164374754775"
attributes = {
martial = 6
diplomacy = 4
intrigue = 4
stewardship = 7
health = 3
fertility = 5
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 8501 }
name = "Judita"
gender = female
dynasty = { type = 12 id =707 }
father = { type = 10 id = 522 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 477 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
birthdate = { year = 1058 month = febuary day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 1086 month = december day = 25 }
dna = "76741866112163"
attributes = {
martial = 3
diplomacy = 7
intrigue = 7
stewardship = 6
health = 4
fertility = 8
}
traits = {
energetic = yes
court_education = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 8502 }
name = "Ludmila"
gender = female
dynasty = { type = 12 id =707 }
father = { type = 10 id = 522 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 477 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
birthdate = { year = 1061 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 1100 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "97916669139437"
attributes = {
martial = 7
diplomacy = 7
intrigue = 7
stewardship = 6
health = 4
fertility = 8
}
traits = {
zealous = yes
modest = yes
ecclesiastical_education = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 8504 }
name = "Borivoj"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id =707 }
father = { type = 10 id = 522 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 765 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
birthdate = { year = 1064 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 1124 month = february day = 2 }
dna = "50531005828368"
attributes = {
martial = 6
diplomacy = 4
intrigue = 6
stewardship = 5
health = 4
fertility = 4
}
traits = {
chaste = yes
lisp = yes
}
}
remove nonexistent characters
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 4272 }
name = "Jitka"
gender = female
dynasty = { type = 12 id =100438 }
country = C438
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
birthdate = { year = 1049 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "82264125011809"
attributes = {
martial = 4
diplomacy = 6
intrigue = 7
stewardship = 7
health = 5
fertility = 6
}
traits = {
court_education = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 4274 }
name = "Markéta"
gender = female
dynasty = { type = 12 id =100440 }
country = C440
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
birthdate = { year = 1049 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "82264125011809"
attributes = {
martial = 4
diplomacy = 6
intrigue = 7
stewardship = 4
health = 5
fertility = 6
}
traits = {
court_education = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 20272 }
name = "Vok"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id =100438 }
country = C438
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
score = { gold = 25 prestige = 100 piety = 100 }
birthdate = { year = 1039 month = january day = 0 }
dna = "82264125011809"
attributes = {
martial = 8
diplomacy = 5
intrigue = 5
stewardship = 7
health = 6
fertility = 4
}
traits = {
merciful = yes
proud = yes
reckless = yes
naive_wirepuller = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 20274 }
name = "Mikulás"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id =100440 }
country = C440
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
score = { gold = 25 prestige = 100 piety = 100 }
birthdate = { year = 1039 month = january day = 0 }
dna = "38106927440647"
attributes = {
martial = 5
diplomacy = 8
intrigue = 4
stewardship = 4
health = 7
fertility = 8
}
traits = {
honest = yes
knowledged_tactician = yes
}
}
add some missing
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 500000 }
name = "Biagota"
gender = female
dynasty = { type = 12 id = 250 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
birthdate = { year = 915 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 965 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "18272760984550"
attributes = {
martial = 7
diplomacy = 6
intrigue = 4
stewardship = 4
health = 5
fertility = 5
}
traits = {
energetic = yes
suspicious = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 500001 }
name = "Agediva"
gender = female
dynasty = { type = 12 id = 100072 }
father = { type = 10 id = 100 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = Saxon
birthdate = { year = 922 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 976 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "79211556633850"
attributes = {
martial = 3
diplomacy = 5
intrigue = 5
stewardship = 9
health = 3
fertility = 4
}
traits = {
scholarly_theologian = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 500002 }
name = "Emma"
gender = female
dynasty = { type = 12 id = 677 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = Frankish
birthdate = { year = 950 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 1006 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "79111556533850"
attributes = {
martial = 5
diplomacy = 7
intrigue = 5
stewardship = 6
health = 4
fertility = 5
}
traits = {
forgiving = yes
lustful = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 500003 }
name = "Bozena"
gender = female
dynasty = { type = 12 id = 250 }
country = DBOH
religion = pagan
culture = bohemian
birthdate = { year = 985 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 1051 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "79211556632830"
attributes = {
martial = 3
diplomacy = 7
intrigue = 6
stewardship = 6
health = 5
fertility = 7
}
traits = {
just = yes
lustful = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 500004 }
name = "Wirpirk"
gender = female
dynasty = { type = 12 id = 706 }
country = C438
religion = catholic
culture = german
birthdate = { year = 1040 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "92033897067128"
attributes = {
martial = 4
diplomacy = 6
intrigue = 4
stewardship = 6
health = 6
fertility = 6
}
traits = {
forgiving = yes
wise = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 500005 }
name = "Ida"
gender = female
dynasty = { type = 12 id = 528 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = german
birthdate = { year = 1030 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 1065 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "22031897047158"
attributes = {
martial = 4
diplomacy = 6
intrigue = 4
stewardship = 6
health = 6
fertility = 6
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 500006 }
name = "Oldrich"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id = 707 }
father = { type = 10 id = 526 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 500004 }
country = C438
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
birthdate = { year = 1060 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "92033897067128"
attributes = {
martial = 2
diplomacy = 2
intrigue = 1
stewardship = 3
health = 4
fertility = 4
}
traits = {
court_education = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 500007 }
name = "Svatobor"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id = 707 }
father = { type = 10 id = 520 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 500005 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
birthdate = { year = 1055 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "12032897077328"
attributes = {
martial = 2
diplomacy = 2
intrigue = 1
stewardship = 3
health = 4
fertility = 4
}
traits = {
ecclesiastical_education = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 500008 }
name = "Jan"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id = 100437 }
country = C441
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
score = { gold = 25 prestige = 100 piety = 100 }
birthdate = { year = 1026 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "12013817017128"
attributes = {
martial = 4
diplomacy = 5
intrigue = 3
stewardship = 6
health = 5
fertility = 1
}
traits = {
mastermind_theologian = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 500009 }
name = "Vladislav"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id = 707 }
father = { type = 10 id = 522 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 765 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
birthdate = { year = 1065 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "50531003828348"
attributes = {
martial = 4
diplomacy = 4
intrigue = 6
stewardship = 7
health = 4
fertility = 4
}
}
Code:
start and end dates changes
marrige = {
primary = { type = 10 id = 504 }
secondary = { type = 10 id = 505 }
startdate = { year = 905 month = january day = 1 }
enddate = { year = 921 month = january day = 1 }
}
marrige = {
primary = { type = 10 id = 522 }
secondary = { type = 10 id = 477 }
startdate = { year = 1057 month = january day = 1 }
enddate = { year = 1062 month = january day = 1 }
}
marrige = {
primary = { type = 10 id = 518 }
secondary = { type = 10 id = 1437 }
startdate = { year = 1028 month = january day = 1 }
enddate = { year = 1055 month = january day = 1 }
}
marriage of removed characters
marrige = {
primary = { type = 10 id = 20274 }
secondary = { type = 10 id = 4274 }
startdate = { year = 1065 month = january day = 1 }
}
add marriages for added characters
marrige = {
primary = { type = 10 id = 508 }
secondary = { type = 10 id = 500000 }
startdate = { year = 931 month = january day = 1 }
enddate = { year = 965 month = january day = 1 }
}
marrige = {
primary = { type = 10 id = 510 }
secondary = { type = 10 id = 500001 }
startdate = { year = 951 month = january day = 1 }
enddate = { year = 976 month = january day = 1 }
}
marrige = {
primary = { type = 10 id = 510 }
secondary = { type = 10 id = 500002 }
startdate = { year = 977 month = january day = 1 }
enddate = { year = 999 month = january day = 1 }
}
marrige = {
primary = { type = 10 id = 516 }
secondary = { type = 10 id = 500003 }
startdate = { year = 1001 month = january day = 1 }
enddate = { year = 1034 month = january day = 1 }
}
marrige = {
primary = { type = 10 id = 520 }
secondary = { type = 10 id = 500005 }
startdate = { year = 1050 month = january day = 1 }
enddate = { year = 1061 month = january day = 1 }
}
marrige = {
primary = { type = 10 id = 526 }
secondary = { type = 10 id = 500004 }
startdate = { year = 1065 month = january day = 1 }
}
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now WHAT I changed...
(just copy of my notes) Bohemia 1066 (1.03) ------------------- Dynsties.txt id = 707 name to Premyslid Province.csv 446 (Morava) part of Germ kingdom title Scenario_Titles C438 ruler change (20272 obsolete) new 526 C441 ruler change () new 500008 C440 ruler change (20274 obsolete), liege change (back to Bohemia) Scenario_Provinces 438 culture change improvements rem, advances rem 441 culture add improvements, advances 440 culture Scenario_Countries DBOH laws changed - salic_consanguinity_law = yes regal_supremacy = yes C441 form_of_goverment = ecclestical new ruler C438 form_of_goverment = feudal new ruler C440 new ruler Scenario.eug C440 new DNA C438 add C441 remove Scenario_Characters id = 500 name id = 501 name, dynasty, traits id = 502 name, birth, death id = 504 name, birth id = 505 name, dynasty, culture, birth, death id = 506 name, birth, traits id = 508 name, birth, death, traits id = 509 mother id = 510 name, birth, mother id = 512 name, mother, birth, death id = 514 mother, birth, death id = 516 name, mother, birth, death id = 518 name, father, mother, birth, attribs id = 520 name, birth id = 522 name, death, attribs, traits id = 524 name, country, birth, death, score, attribs, traits id = 526 culture, country, death, traits id = 528 score, birth, death, attribs, traits id = 530 name, mother, traits id = 8500 mother, birth, death id = 8501 name, birth, death, attribs, traits id = 8502 (former 12604) death, id = 8504 name, death id = 1437 country id = 500000-500009 new characters deleted chars - 20274 20272 4272 7274 Scenario_Relations 504+505 start 522+477 start 518+1437 start new: 508+500000 510+500001 510+500002 516+500003 520+500005 526+500004 deleted 20274+4274 questions ? Last edited by Arkady; 15-06-2004 at 12:28. |
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Drahomira ze Stodor came from another Western Slavic tribe of Stodorane (hence Stodor) that lived in CK Brandenburg or Lausitz in the X century. I do not know for family names, but they should have Western Slavic culture, even though it does not matter because they both had died long before 1066. |
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Hi, I have been doing some research on bohemia for the betas update as well for 1066
 This is what I arrived at. Perhaps we could reconcile the changes somewhat: Changes to dynasty file Replace dynasty name 707 with "Premyslid" Code:
dynasty = {
id = { type = 12 id = 707 }
name = "Premyslid"
}
Code:
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 500 }
name = "Borzivoy"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id =707 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
birthdate = { year = 836 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 894 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "79527383570332"
attributes = {
martial = 7
diplomacy = 8
intrigue = 6
stewardship = 5
health = 7
fertility = 5
}
traits = {
deceitful = yes
sceptical = yes
harelip = yes
fortune_builder = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 501 }
name = "Ludmila"
gender = female
dynasty = { type = 12 id =1 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
birthdate = { year = 844 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 927 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "66283373943072"
attributes = {
martial = 7
diplomacy = 7
intrigue = 5
stewardship = 8
health = 5
fertility = 5
}
traits = {
chaste = yes
forgiving = yes
honest = yes
just = yes
merciful = yes
modest = yes
zealous = yes
wise = yes
temperate = yes
valorous = yes
saint = yes
scholarly_theologian = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 502 }
name = "Spytignev"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id =707 }
father = { type = 10 id = 500 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 501 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
birthdate = { year = 875 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 915 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "51386188063036"
attributes = {
martial = 6
diplomacy = 4
intrigue = 5
stewardship = 8
health = 7
fertility = 4
}
traits = {
forgiving = yes
deceitful = yes
knowledged_tactician = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 504 }
name = "Vratislav"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id =707 }
father = { type = 10 id = 500 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 501 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
birthdate = { year = 888 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 921 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "45871176695330"
attributes = {
martial = 6
diplomacy = 6
intrigue = 8
stewardship = 7
health = 4
fertility = 4
}
traits = {
modest = yes
martial_cleric = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 505 }
name = "Drahomira"
gender = female
dynasty = { type = 12 id =1 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
birthdate = { year = 885 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 935 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "18272760984577"
attributes = {
martial = 4
diplomacy = 8
intrigue = 5
stewardship = 7
health = 5
fertility = 7
}
traits = {
energetic = yes
suspicious = yes
charismatic_negotiator = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 506 }
name = "Vaclav"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id =707 }
father = { type = 10 id = 504 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 505 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
birthdate = { year = 911 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 935 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "74342257749197"
attributes = {
martial = 7
diplomacy = 6
intrigue = 5
stewardship = 6
health = 5
fertility = 5
}
traits = {
chaste = yes
forgiving = yes
honest = yes
just = yes
merciful = yes
modest = yes
zealous = yes
wise = yes
temperate = yes
valorous = yes
saint = yes
knowledged_tactician = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 507 }
name = "Biagota"
gender = female
dynasty = { type = 12 id =1 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
birthdate = { year = 915 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 980 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "47548295072962"
attributes = {
martial = 6
diplomacy = 7
intrigue = 6
stewardship = 6
health = 8
fertility = 5
}
traits = {
suspicious = yes
naive_wirepuller = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 508 }
name = "Boleslav"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id =707 }
father = { type = 10 id = 504 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 505 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
birthdate = { year = 913 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 976 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "56413063957358"
attributes = {
martial = 6
diplomacy = 7
intrigue = 6
stewardship = 4
health = 5
fertility = 4
}
traits = {
lisp = yes
kinslayer = yes
flamboyant_schemer = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 509 }
name = "Dobrava"
gender = female
dynasty = { type = 12 id =707 }
father = { type = 10 id = 508 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 507 }
country = POLA
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
birthdate = { year = 933 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 977 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "79211556633850"
attributes = {
martial = 7
diplomacy = 8
intrigue = 5
stewardship = 4
health = 4
fertility = 6
}
traits = {
proud = yes
suspicious = yes
scholarly_theologian = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 510 }
name = "Boleslav"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id =707 }
father = { type = 10 id = 508 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 507 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
birthdate = { year = 931 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 999 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "65747188651789"
attributes = {
martial = 7
diplomacy = 6
intrigue = 7
stewardship = 6
health = 7
fertility = 4
}
traits = {
fortune_builder = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 511 }
name = "Elgiva"
gender = female
dynasty = { type = 12 id =100072 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = Saxon
birthdate = { year = 916 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 1005 month = october day = 10 }
dna = "25964319725792"
attributes = {
martial = 5
diplomacy = 6
intrigue = 8
stewardship = 7
health = 6
fertility = 5
}
traits = {
scholarly_theologian = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 512 }
name = "Boleslav"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id =707 }
father = { type = 10 id = 510 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 511 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
birthdate = { year = 966 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 1035 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "04349412074457"
attributes = {
martial = 4
diplomacy = 6
intrigue = 5
stewardship = 6
health = 8
fertility = 6
}
traits = {
forgiving = yes
tough_soldier = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 514 }
name = "Jaromir"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id =707 }
father = { type = 10 id = 510 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 511 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
birthdate = { year = 967 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 1035 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "36246453380618"
attributes = {
martial = 5
diplomacy = 7
intrigue = 5
stewardship = 6
health = 7
fertility = 6
}
traits = {
honest = yes
knowledged_tactician = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 516 }
name = "Oldrich"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id =707 }
father = { type = 10 id = 510 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 511 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
birthdate = { year = 970 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 1034 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "88579603288552"
attributes = {
martial = 8
diplomacy = 8
intrigue = 6
stewardship = 7
health = 8
fertility = 7
}
traits = {
lustful = yes
knowledged_tactician = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 518 }
name = "Bretislav"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id =707 }
father = { type = 10 id = 516 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
birthdate = { year = 1002 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 1055 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "98522787780493"
attributes = {
martial = 8
diplomacy = 8
intrigue = 6
stewardship = 5
health = 5
fertility = 7
}
traits = {
deceitful = yes
bastard = yes
tough_soldier = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 520 }
name = "Spitignev"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id =707 }
father = { type = 10 id = 518 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 1437 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
birthdate = { year = 1031 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 1061 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "90841478246991"
attributes = {
martial = 8
diplomacy = 4
intrigue = 8
stewardship = 6
health = 4
fertility = 6
}
traits = {
knowledged_tactician = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 522 }
name = "Vratislav"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id =707 }
father = { type = 10 id = 518 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 1437 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
score = { gold = 125 prestige = 100 piety = 100 }
birthdate = { year = 1032 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 1092 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "03860758811054"
attributes = {
martial = 4
diplomacy = 5
intrigue = 8
stewardship = 7
health = 4
fertility = 7
}
traits = {
just = yes
hunchback = yes
proven_dealbreaker = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 524 }
name = "Otto"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id =707 }
father = { type = 10 id = 518 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 1437 }
country = C441 make sure to check/correct elsewhere
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
score = { gold = 25 prestige = 100 piety = 100 }
birthdate = { year = 1045 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 1087 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "20239310708275"
attributes = {
martial = 5
diplomacy = 4
intrigue = 5
stewardship = 5
health = 8
fertility = 5
}
traits = {
generous = yes
proud = yes
flamboyant_schemer = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 526 }
name = "Konrad"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id =707 }
father = { type = 10 id = 518 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 1437 }
country = C446 make sure to check/correct elsewhere
religion = catholic
culture = German
score = { gold = 25 prestige = 100 piety = 100 }
birthdate = { year = 1035 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 1092 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "92033897067128"
attributes = {
martial = 8
diplomacy = 5
intrigue = 4
stewardship = 5
health = 5
fertility = 8
}
traits = {
forgiving = yes
temperate = yes
flamboyant_schemer = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 528 }
name = "Jaromir Gebhard"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id =707 }
father = { type = 10 id = 518 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 1437 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
birthdate = { year = 1040 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 1090 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "78504756213115"
attributes = {
martial = 7
diplomacy = 8
intrigue = 6
stewardship = 4
health = 6
fertility = 7
}
traits = {
wise = yes
temperate = yes
harelip = yes
martial_cleric = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 530 }
name = "Bretislav"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id =707 }
father = { type = 10 id = 522 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 477 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
birthdate = { year = 1058 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 1100 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "81887453069527"
attributes = {
martial = 8
diplomacy = 4
intrigue = 8
stewardship = 8
health = 7
fertility = 6
}
traits = {
forgiving = yes
suspicious = yes
harelip = yes
martial_education = yes
}
}
Code:
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 1437 }
name = "Judith"
gender = female
dynasty = { type = 12 id =653 }
father = { type = 10 id = 1434 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = German
birthdate = { year = 1007 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 1058 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "27573734554004"
attributes = {
martial = 5
diplomacy = 7
intrigue = 6
stewardship = 7
health = 5
fertility = 7
}
traits = {
arbitrary = yes
naive_wirepuller = yes
}
}
Code:
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 8500 }
name = "Boleslav "
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id =707 }
father = { type = 10 id = 522 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 765 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
birthdate = { year = 1064 month = january day = 14 }
deathdate = { year = 1091 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "50164374754775"
attributes = {
martial = 6
diplomacy = 4
intrigue = 4
stewardship = 7
health = 6
fertility = 5
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 8501 }
name = "Judith"
gender = female
dynasty = { type = 12 id =707 }
father = { type = 10 id = 522 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 477 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
birthdate = { year = 1060 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 1086 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "76741866112163"
attributes = {
martial = 7
diplomacy = 7
intrigue = 7
stewardship = 6
health = 4
fertility = 8
traits = {
deceitful = yes
suspicious = yes
court_education = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 8502 }
name = "Ludmila"
gender = female
dynasty = { type = 12 id =707 }
father = { type = 10 id = 522 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 477 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
birthdate = { year = 1061 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "97916669139437"
attributes = {
martial = 7
diplomacy = 7
intrigue = 7
stewardship = 6
health = 4
fertility = 8
traits = {
zealous = yes
modest = yes
ecclesiastical_education = yes
}
}
character = {
id = { type = 10 id = 8504 }
name = "Borzivoy"
gender = male
dynasty = { type = 12 id =707 }
father = { type = 10 id = 522 }
mother = { type = 10 id = 765 }
country = DBOH
religion = catholic
culture = bohemian
birthdate = { year = 1064 month = january day = 1 }
deathdate = { year = 1124 month = january day = 1 }
dna = "50531005828368"
attributes = {
martial = 6
diplomacy = 4
intrigue = 6
stewardship = 5
health = 4
fertility = 4
}
traits = {
chaste = yes
lisp = yes
}
}
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marrige = {
primary = { type = 10 id = 500 }
secondary = { type = 10 id = 501 }
startdate = { year = 874 month = january day = 1 }
enddate = { year = 894 month = january day = 1 }
}
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marrige = {
primary = { type = 10 id = 508 }
secondary = { type = 10 id = 507 }
startdate = { year = 930 month = january day = 1 }
enddate = { year = 976 month = january day = 1 }
}
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marrige = {
primary = { type = 10 id = 510 }
secondary = { type = 10 id = 511 }
startdate = { year = 964 month = january day = 1 }
enddate = { year = 999 month = january day = 1 }
}
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marrige = {
primary = { type = 10 id = 522 }
secondary = { type = 10 id = 477 }
startdate = { year = 1057 month = january day = 1 }
enddate = { year = 1062 month = january day = 1 }
}
Where we seem to be differing is mainly: 1. I made Ludmilla a true saint, rather than just giving her "St." in the name. Same for Vaclav/Wenceslaus. 2. I am going to make Konrad Count of Morava (now Austrian) - he was at this time "Duke" of Brunn and Znaim; while putting Otto in Ostrava - he was at the time "Duke" of Olmutz - it's not exactly the same name, but the area is fairly the same. 3. "Svatava" or "Svetoslava" is already renamed (and remade) as Swietoslawa, since she was Polish, so it is appropriate for the name to be in Polish. 4. Other minor stuff. My main source is this: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/index.html Can you look at what I did so far and comment?
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please have a look here for historical sources, more on genealogy and the full discussion. A mod can merge the threads if needed. 1. Regarding spelling in general, please take the one that Arkady and I agreed upon - you can see that we agreed on it without any argument because it simply is the one and only modern spelling used in Czech books. The one used in your source is a strange mixture that combines medieval, modern and German spelling. 2. No problem with Ludmila (note - l - rather than - ll - ) and Vaclav. 3. No problem with Swietoslawa being spelled in Polish (also modern spelling, isn't it?). 4. Provinces *cough* What is the rationale for having a county called Morava in left-bank Lower Austria? I think we should know what it stands for before we agree if Konrad should go there. See also my and Arkady's discussion on what the provinces should/could represent. I will post on provinces later ( when I do enough work to improve the game so that my criticism is accepted  )5. Konrad Premyslid - he should be Bohemian (BTW, why do we have Bohemian instead of Czech?) Sorry, I have to go now, but will provide further comments and questions tomorrow and later. (My favorite topic is going to be a contingent claim that Bohemian dukes could have on Silesia... And the question why my hometown of Cieszyn does not belong to Silesia. )V.A. |
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Svatava /Swietoslawa ... i'll use modern Polish version of this name ...I made a mistake, there is a typo in her mother, Dobronega, dynasty, i'll correct it immediatelly for missing ladies Martinus use different ID numbers, I left my numbers in master file, it easy for me to maintain... for Ludmila ...some sources place Psov (Pšov ) somewhere near Melnik (culture bohemian, dynasty 'of Bohemia' = current status) for Drahomira I'll use your data, culture western slavic and dynasty Lausitz main issue are now provinces 1. what County of Morava stand for ... in CK is too south but shield used is moravian and is part of title 'King of Bohemia' 2. how to arrange HK, Opava and Ostrava to reflect history as much as possible but keep them attractive for gameplay and what about bishopric of Olomouc (i feel that this place is important to keep it in game) .... use of bohemian rather then czech, czech is too modern and national, bohemian reflect more history and era of CK
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Well, first of all, let remind our friends from abroad that Bohemian and Czech do not and did not exist as two separate words in Czech and other Slavic languages. The one and only expression sounds like "czeski" (which is also how it is spelled in Polish), which inspired the English word Czech, French tcheque, German tschechisch etc. So the question is whether in English, "Bohemian culture" fits better than "Czech culture." First, "Bohemia" relates to the toponyme "Boius hemus," (or something like this), which means "land of the (Celtic tribe of) Boii." This name did not change even after the region was settled by the Germanic tribes and then by the Slavs. Consequently, anyone settling in Bohemia should automatically have "Bohemian culture." This is also how the term was used in the XIX century when a German-speaking aristocrate from an old Czech family presented his position regarding nationalities: I am not Czech, I am not German, I am Bohemian. This, however, should not apply in 1066. Sometimes in late 1050's, duke Spytihnev II ordered all Germans (including his mother) to leave Bohemia, so Bohemia was certainly not a melting pot - even though it did become a sort of melting pot later, especially in connection with her territorial expansion in the XIII and XIV century. Second, if we are politically correct to have Saami culture rather than Lappish, we should have Czech rather than Bohemian. But again, this is a non-issue. V.A. |
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Going back from the discussion of relative merits of "bohemian" and "czech"
 and getting back to the business...The idea is that we agree (with you having a precedence, since you are probably much more knowledgeable in the bohemian history than I) on some actual changes to the scenario files and post them here all in a format like mine (so, rather than files, the actual "copy/paste" text strings to replace). That way I will be able to put them into official scenario files for 1.03
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(Ludmila, Vaclav, Swietoslawa, Dobronega) now I downloading patch 1.02 and I'll check what changed in scenario file I think that personal data are almost done (except maybe for later changes in home provinces of Kornad, his wife and son and for Oto) |
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03-05-2004, 10:28
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I made correction with 1.02 scenario
first post is updated with latest changes, i would like to see it in patch 1.03 of course there is a question about provinces I found that there is a new title 'Duke of Moravia' but Morava is not part of this title. Strange
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I have added the Bohemian fixes to the 1066 bugfix project. (Not uploaded yet)
Exceptions & problems: - Jaromir (528) have double education. I dropped the ecclestical one. - I added the cruel trait to Boleslav I the cruel. - I did not add the claim that you are still debating. - I haven't added a modified dynasties.txt . I might do it later. |
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04-05-2004, 10:07
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Boleslav I , yes I forgot add this, i'll update my list |
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04-05-2004, 10:48
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There should be only one education - in case of Jaromir it's only fair to give him theological education. Instead of "court" education, just give him high Diplomacy.
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EDIT: despite some forum problems list was updated and again what is your opinion about Morava and other provinces ? I probably remove Konrad's claim on Morava and left other changes as listed above.... Last edited by Arkady; 04-05-2004 at 15:01. |
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I had some issues to access the forum and my workload has increased considerably, so I may be less active than I wish in the near future...
 I second Arkady's suggestions. Two minor points regarding inheritance laws and appointment of bishops. The curent inheritance law is salic primogeniture - which makes playing the Premyslids quite easy because the dynasty is rather big. However, the real inheritance law was that the ruling duke should be the eldest male descendant of Bretislav I. The ruling duke had an obligation to give some land to other male Premyslids, but this was not really the vassal-liege relationship known in Western Europe. The younger dukes did not have any right to a particular land, and any new ruling duke was able to (and actually did) re-shuffle their domains. When Bretislav I died in 1055, his eldest son Spytihnev II became the ruling duke and his second son Vratislav was made duke of Olomouc. When Spytihnev II died in 1061, Vratislav became the ruling duke and he gave Olomouc to his younger brother Oto. Spytihnev II's son Svatobor did not get any land because he was a child. The law really worked only for Bretislav I's sons (Spytihnev II 1055-1061, Vratislav II 1061-1092, Konrad 1092) and then Vratislav's eldest son Bretislav II (1092-1100). In 1100, the eldest Premyslid was Konrad's son Oldrich, but Vratislav II's son Borivoj II, Oldrich's cousin, became the ruling duke in his stead. Afterwards, the title usually went to the most skilled (diplomatically and militarily) Premyslid. I wonder if consanguinity wouldn't render this better than primogeniture. The real primogeniture was implemented only in 1212. At least there is no doubt that the inheritance laws were strictly salic. The current bishop investiture rule is ecclesiastical balance. In real life, the bishops were almost always chosen by the ruling duke - with the consent of Czech nobles. So royal prerogative would fit better, I believe. Regarding potential claims, I'd say that there is no mechanism to render the tribute that Poland had to pay and paid for Silesia, Bohemia should have a claim on Silesia (both Lower and Upper; I do not know about these strange Cieszyn and Opole provinces). A potential claim on Morava depends on what Morava stands for. We are waiting for Martinus to shed some insider light on that issue. And finally a minor question regarding on-line sources, Martinus, can you read Czech? V.A. |
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About the borders of the Kingdom of Bohemia:
- Should Silesia (Upper & Lower) be transfered from Poland to Bohemia? - Should this strange Lower Austria/Morava province be transfered to Germany? I'm considering these changes in the 1066 bugfix project. |
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Morava is poorly named, actual Moravia is Lower Austria's northern neighbour (rather than eastern).
Silesia was part of early Premyslid Bohemia in the second half of the X century, then it was Polish from approx. 990 to 1039, then back Czech from 1039 until 1050. In 1054, Bohemia and Poland signed a treaty in Quedlinburg that provided that Silesia remained Polish, but Poland had to pay an annual tribute for this land. Other wars started when Poland refused to pay the tribute (in early 1060's, in 1110's), when Poland sided with the Pope while Bohemia with the Emperor (1070's) or when Bohemia interfered in Polish internal dynastic strife (1090's). In total, the conflict over Silesia lasted over a century and a half. See this excellent paper, Chapter one, pages 11 and 12 (pdf pages 15 and 16). The process of Silesia's incorporation into the medieval kingdom of Bohemia began in the second half of the XIII century and was diplomatically achieved in 1335 when the king of Poland gave up his claim on Silesia and paid a heavy tribute in exchange for John of Luxemburg's giving up his claim on the title of king of Poland. Certain Silesian principalities welcomed Bohemian rule while other resisted, but generally speaking, Silesia became Bohemian in 1335 (which should be corrected in the 1336 scenario). See the same paper, Chapter one, pages 16 and 17 (pdf 20 and 21). Since the kingdom of Bohemia was part of the HRE, this probably is what you mean by saying that Silesia passed to Germany. Back to CK: Morava should be part of Austria, and no Premyslid should have a claim on it. Lower and Upper Silesia should be part of Poland, but the duke of Bohemia should have a claim on these two counties. V.A. Last edited by Vaclav Adam; 05-05-2004 at 10:59. |
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I'll try today evening inheritance change for salic consanguinity and ecclesiastic I change to royal prerogative There is a true that Poland paid in that time each year about 76kg of gold and some 126,5 kg od silver ... should we reflect this in Duke of Bohemia's claim on Silesian provinces ? I don't know how problematic is change province name (map redraw + renamin config files ???) but Morava should be 'Niederöstereich' (or with both eyes shut 'Burgenland') and removed from title King of Bohemia provinces |
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