North America

MartyWolf · 03-10-2003, 21:49

Here is where we will have ALL Information about Canada, Mexico, Iceland, including Events, Leaders/Ministers, etc.

I've decided that regional threads (Like CORE has), is a good idea, and shall be implemented now. I will soon post more details

vcarter707 · 14-10-2003, 07:13

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Originally posted by MartyWolf
...Greenland..

wha! isnt greenland part of denmark?

h345 · 14-10-2003, 15:46

Greenland is part of Denmark shouldn't we have Iceland instead

Corvuz_Crovax · 14-10-2003, 18:12

Iceland ought to be independant. It might be small but it has a placement that is quite strategically important. Besides there are countries that have fewer IC's in the game. The US should probably have military acces since they provide icelands military defense. But if it cant be made independant it should probably belong to one of the scandinavian countries since they (if I am not totally mistaken) are already cooperating with the rest of scandinavia in a lot of areas.

MartyWolf · 14-10-2003, 22:49

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Originally posted by h345
Greenland is part of Denmark shouldn't we have Iceland instead

Yes, you are right, I made a mistake, sorry.

Lunar · 15-10-2003, 00:52

Yeah, Iceland is certainly going to be in the game. They are geographically part of Europe though.

Lunar · 19-10-2003, 22:58

Canadian Carriers:
HMCS Stellar's Jay
HMCS Raven
HMCS Gyrfalcon
HMCS Osprey
HMCS Canada

Canadian Cruisers:
HMCS Huron
HMCS Mohawk
HMCS Oneida
HMCS Onondaga
HMCS Cayuga
HMCS Seneca
HMCS Erie
HMCS Inuit
HMCS Manowan
HMCS Mistassini
HMCS Obedjiwan
HMCS Nipissing

Mexican Carriers:
León
Mérida
Álamos
Santa Rosilia

Mexican Cruisers:
Tijuana
Acapulco
Puerto Vallarta
Mazatián
Tampico
Puebla
Chetumal
Monterrey
Matamoros
Pátzcuaro
Oaxaca
Guadalajara
Real de Catorce

h345 · 20-10-2003, 23:51

why would mexico build a carrier?

MartyWolf · 21-10-2003, 00:20

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Originally posted by h345
why would mexico build a carrier?

The world will never know

But, just in case a human player builds one, they need names, right???

vcarter707 · 22-10-2003, 01:55

alright, what shall happen to canada

McNaughton · 23-10-2003, 03:58

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Originally posted by Lunar
Canadian Cruisers:
HMCS Iqaluit
HMCS Charlottetown
HMCS Regina
HMCS Whitehorse
HMCS Victoria
HMCS Ottawa
HMCS Lunenburg
HMCS Churchill
HMCS Yellowknife
HMCS Calgary
HMCS Vancouver

Historically Canadian Cruisers were named after Provinces. However, modern Frigates (basically large destroyers or light cruiser), are named after Provincial and Territorial Capitols. WW2 and post-war Destroyers were named after either Great Rivers, or Amerindian Tribes. Usually there was a pattern or cycle to the names (i.e., all ships of one class or era named using the same system). Most likely any new large vessel would either be named after Amerindian Tribes or Rivers, since current Frigates are named after Capitol cities and redundancy would be avoided.

Lunar · 23-10-2003, 07:51

Thanks. Since I generally have no clue for the naming systems of countries (except US and Japan), that type of information helps. I thought it was clever to use provincial state birds as the names for carriers though.

Could you give me a link or give me some Amerindian tribes and whatnot?

McNaughton · 25-10-2003, 02:57

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Originally posted by Lunar
Thanks. Since I generally have no clue for the naming systems of countries (except US and Japan), that type of information helps. I thought it was clever to use provincial state birds as the names for carriers though.

Could you give me a link or give me some Amerindian tribes and whatnot?

Yeah, you hit the mark for the Canadian Carriers!

It really depends how detailed you want to get, as there are innumerable (well, the number is finite) First Nations that you could use.

Iroquoian languages include Mohawk, Oneida, Onondaga, Cayuga, Seneca, Erie, Neutral, Tobacco, and Huron, located primarily in Central Canada. (Pick and choose, as "HMCS Neutral" might not be a very formidable warship name)

This website seems pretty thourough

http://www.dickshovel.com/trbindex.html

However, keep in note that the HMCS Haida is a museum in Ontario, and that the HMCS Athabasca was sunk in WW2 (so I don't know if it will be reused).

Lunar · 25-10-2003, 03:35

Alright, thank you.

McGib · 10-11-2003, 22:11

I spent 13 years in the Canadian navy so if you like I can help you with ship names that Canada has used

btw HMCS Athabaskan is currently in service as a tribal class destroyer and has been since the mid 70's.

MartyWolf · 10-11-2003, 23:09

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Originally posted by McGib
I spent 13 years in the Canadian navy so if you like I can help you with ship names that Canada has used

Yes, I'm sure Lunar would love your help. Just post the class and the names you know. Thanks!

McGib · 11-11-2003, 02:11

I'd be more than happy to help.

Carriers: Warrior(CVL)
Magnificent(CVL)
Boneventure(CVL)
Colossus(CVL)
Nabob(CVE)
Puncher(CVE)

Cruisers: Ontario
Quebec
Prince Robert
Prince Henry
Prince David
Alberta*
Manitoba*
Saskatchewan*
Nova Scotia*
New Brunswick*
British Columbia*
Prince Edward Island*

* - I'm guessing that had Canada had more cruisers they would have called named them after the other provinces.

Now if you are going to include battleships in your mod I would move the cruiser names up to the BB's and I can give you names for the cruisers.

I found this a usefull site to use. http://www.hazegray.org/navhist/canada/

Lunar · 11-11-2003, 02:17

Thanks, looks great.

No battleships for Canada. You can do destroyers though, we tend to prefer individual destroyer names rather than "Destroyer Squadron 21" type stuff.

Dokrroka · 21-11-2003, 03:34

See this is hard because these countries need rather alot of Ships but why wouldn't canada have battle ships?

h345 · 21-11-2003, 03:43

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Originally posted by Dokrroka
See this is hard because these countries need rather alot of Ships but why wouldn't canada have battle ships?

battleships are not going to be in this mod, except for the Iwoa's which u can reactivate when u play as the USA

03-10-2003, 21:49	#1
MartyWolf Forest of Metaphors Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,649	North America Here is where we will have ALL Information about Canada, Mexico, Iceland, including Events, Leaders/Ministers, etc. I've decided that regional threads (Like CORE has), is a good idea, and shall be implemented now. I will soon post more details __________________ Modern Day Scenario for HoI Last edited by MartyWolf; 14-10-2003 at 22:50.

15-10-2003, 00:52	#6
Lunar Field Marshal Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 2,817	Yeah, Iceland is certainly going to be in the game. They are geographically part of Europe though. __________________ Modern Day Scenario for HOI ---Email--- An Attempt at Friendship AAR (my attempt at being funny)

19-10-2003, 22:58	#7
Lunar Field Marshal Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 2,817	Ship Names Canadian Carriers: HMCS Stellar's Jay HMCS Raven HMCS Gyrfalcon HMCS Osprey HMCS Canada Canadian Cruisers: HMCS Huron HMCS Mohawk HMCS Oneida HMCS Onondaga HMCS Cayuga HMCS Seneca HMCS Erie HMCS Inuit HMCS Manowan HMCS Mistassini HMCS Obedjiwan HMCS Nipissing Mexican Carriers: León Mérida Álamos Santa Rosilia Mexican Cruisers: Tijuana Acapulco Puerto Vallarta Mazatián Tampico Puebla Chetumal Monterrey Matamoros Pátzcuaro Oaxaca Guadalajara Real de Catorce __________________ Modern Day Scenario for HOI ---Email--- An Attempt at Friendship AAR (my attempt at being funny) Last edited by Lunar; 25-10-2003 at 03:34.

22-10-2003, 01:55	#10
vcarter707 Music To Your Ears Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: California Posts: 1,675	alright, what shall happen to canada __________________ Ich Bin Ein Berliner! um... I know somebody important said that. Modern Day scenario for HOI #0016 - Pvt. - vcarter707 - ADDICT Platoon

23-10-2003, 07:51	#12
Lunar Field Marshal Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 2,817	Thanks. Since I generally have no clue for the naming systems of countries (except US and Japan), that type of information helps. I thought it was clever to use provincial state birds as the names for carriers though. Could you give me a link or give me some Amerindian tribes and whatnot? __________________ Modern Day Scenario for HOI ---Email--- An Attempt at Friendship AAR (my attempt at being funny)

14-10-2003, 15:46	#3
h345 Major Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Working on MDS Posts: 711	Greenland is part of Denmark shouldn't we have Iceland instead

14-10-2003, 18:12	#4
Corvuz_Crovax The Crazy Modder Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Aarhus, Denmark Posts: 636	Iceland ought to be independant. It might be small but it has a placement that is quite strategically important. Besides there are countries that have fewer IC's in the game. The US should probably have military acces since they provide icelands military defense. But if it cant be made independant it should probably belong to one of the scandinavian countries since they (if I am not totally mistaken) are already cooperating with the rest of scandinavia in a lot of areas.

20-10-2003, 23:51	#8
h345 Major Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Working on MDS Posts: 711	why would mexico build a carrier?

25-10-2003, 03:35	#14
Lunar Field Marshal Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 2,817	Alright, thank you. __________________ Modern Day Scenario for HOI ---Email--- An Attempt at Friendship AAR (my attempt at being funny)

10-11-2003, 22:11	#15
McGib Second Lieutenant Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 143	I spent 13 years in the Canadian navy so if you like I can help you with ship names that Canada has used btw HMCS Athabaskan is currently in service as a tribal class destroyer and has been since the mid 70's.

11-11-2003, 02:11	#17
McGib Second Lieutenant Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 143	I'd be more than happy to help. Carriers: Warrior(CVL) Magnificent(CVL) Boneventure(CVL) Colossus(CVL) Nabob(CVE) Puncher(CVE) Cruisers: Ontario Quebec Prince Robert Prince Henry Prince David Alberta* Manitoba* Saskatchewan* Nova Scotia* New Brunswick* British Columbia* Prince Edward Island* * - I'm guessing that had Canada had more cruisers they would have called named them after the other provinces. Now if you are going to include battleships in your mod I would move the cruiser names up to the BB's and I can give you names for the cruisers. I found this a usefull site to use. http://www.hazegray.org/navhist/canada/

11-11-2003, 02:17	#18
Lunar Field Marshal Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 2,817	Thanks, looks great. No battleships for Canada. You can do destroyers though, we tend to prefer individual destroyer names rather than "Destroyer Squadron 21" type stuff. __________________ Modern Day Scenario for HOI ---Email--- An Attempt at Friendship AAR (my attempt at being funny)

21-11-2003, 03:34	#19
Dokrroka Second Lieutenant Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 198	See this is hard because these countries need rather alot of Ships but why wouldn't canada have battle ships? __________________ "I am like a candle. I am melting away slowly, but I light the way for others."