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22-09-2002, 21:16
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What about Austria?
I read all those threads for EEP. I enjoy those events, I hope that more events would be added, especially for Germany.
Anyway, of all major power, Austria is the only one that don't have any real addition to it beyond the crown of Lothiaga, and Manuta. So, if you have any idea regarding Austria, could yopu please suggest them?
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22-09-2002, 21:28
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Here are some Austrian events that I made, but have never been included in the EEP.
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event = {
id = [event 1]
random = NO
country = HAB
name = "The marriage of Albrecht V and Elizabeth of Bohemia"
desc = "When Emperor Sigismund the King of Germany, Bohemia, and Hungary died in 1437 his only daughter and sole heiress was married to Duke Albrecht V of Austria. Albrecht was crowned King of Hungary and Bohemia and the two Kingdoms stayed within Habsburg domination until the death of Albrecht's son Ladislaus Posthumus. Once Ladislaus died the Albrechtian branch of the Habsburgs, and the Habsburg's claim to Bohemia and Hungary died with him."
style = 1
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1437 }
action_a = {
name = "Reserve our claim to the Bohemian and Hungarian crowns for another day"
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
command = { type = addcore which = 328 } #Capital of Bohemia#
command = { type = addcore which = 325 } #Capital of Hungary#
}
action_b = {
name = "We shall inherit Hungary, but not press our claim to Bohemia"
command = { type = revoltrisk which = 40 value = 4 }
command = { type = centralization value = -3 }
command = { type = stability value = -4 }
command = { type = inherit which = HUN }
command = { type = addcore which = 324 }
command = { type = addcore which = 325 } #Capital of Hungary#
command = { type = addcore which = 326 }
command = { type = addcore which = 353 }
command = { type = addcore which = 354 }
command = { type = addcore which = 316 }
command = { type = addcore which = 317 }
command = { type = addcore which = 352 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = [event 3] }
command = { type = relation which = POL value = -200 }
command = { type = relation which = BOH value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = BAV value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = VEN value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = SER value = -25 }
command = { type = relation which = CRO value = -50 }
}
action_c = {
name = "We shall inherit Hungary, and press our claim to Bohemia"
command = { type = revoltrisk which = 40 value = 5 }
command = { type = centralization value = -4 }
command = { type = stability value = -5 }
command = { type = inherit which = HUN }
command = { type = addcore which = 324 }
command = { type = addcore which = 325 } #Capital of Hungary#
command = { type = addcore which = 326 }
command = { type = addcore which = 353 }
command = { type = addcore which = 354 }
command = { type = addcore which = 316 }
command = { type = addcore which = 317 }
command = { type = addcore which = 352 }
command = { type = addcore which = 314 }
command = { type = addcore which = 315 }
command = { type = addcore which = 328 } #Capital of Bohemia#
command = { type = addcore which = 329 }
command = { type = addcore which = 330 }
command = { type = relation which = POL value = -300 }
command = { type = relation which = BOH value = -400 }
command = { type = relation which = BAV value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = VEN value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = SER value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = CRO value = -50 }
}
action_d = {
name = " Do not press any claims"
command = { type = centralization value = 2 }
command = { type = stability value = 2 }
command = { type = relation which = POL value = 150 }
command = { type = relation which = BOH value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = BAV value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = VEN value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = SER value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = CRO value = 25 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = [event 2] }
command = { type = sleepevent which = [event 3] }
}
}
event = {
id = [event 2]
random = NO
trigger = {
not = { owned = { province = 325 data = HAB }
}
country = HAB
name = "The End of the Albrechtian Line"
desc = "Once Ladislaus died the Albrechtian branch of the Habsburgs, and the Habsburg's claim to Hungary died with him. Friedrich V of the Styrian branch of Habsburgs became Duke of Austria, but since Ladislaus was only a distant relative of Friedrich the Habsburg claim on Hungary was for the time being destroyed."
style = 1
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1457 }
action_a = {
name = "What a shame."
command = { type = removecore which = 324 }
command = { type = removecore which = 325 } #Capital of Hungary#
command = { type = removecore which = 326 }
command = { type = removecore which = 353 }
command = { type = removecore which = 354 }
command = { type = removecore which = 316 }
command = { type = removecore which = 317 }
command = { type = removecore which = 352 }
}
}
event = {
id = [event 3]
random = NO
trigger = {
not = { owned = { province = 328 data = HAB }
}
country = HAB
name = "The End of the Albrechtian Line"
desc = "Once Ladislaus died the Albrechtian branch of the Habsburgs, and the Habsburg's claim to Bohemia died with him. Friedrich V of the Styrian branch of Habsburgs became Duke of Austria, but since Ladislaus was only a distant relative of Friedrich the Habsburg claim on Bohemia was for the time being destroyed."
style = 1
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1457 }
action_a = {
name = "What a shame."
command = { type = removecore which = 314 }
command = { type = removecore which = 315 }
command = { type = removecore which = 328 } #Capital of Bohemia#
command = { type = removecore which = 329 }
command = { type = removecore which = 330 }
}
}
event = {
id = [event 4]
random = NO
trigger = {
owned = { province = 315 data = HAB }
}
country = HAB
name = "Hussite uprisings in Moravia"
desc = "The Hussite Wars were series of conflicts in the 15th cent., caused by the rise of the Hussites in Bohemia and Moravia. It was a religious struggle between Hussites and the Roman Catholic Church, a national struggle between Czechs and Germans, and a social struggle between the landed and peasant classes. The Hussites resented foreign German rule and fought vigorously to throw off their German yoke."
style = 1
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1474 }
action_a = {
name = "Death to the heretics!"
command = { type = revolt which = 315 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 315 value = 8 }
command = { type = relation which = PAP value = 25 }
}
}
event = {
id = [event 5]
random = NO
trigger = {
owned = { province = 328 data = HAB }
}
country = HAB
name = "Hussite uprisings in Bohemia"
desc = "The Hussite Wars were series of conflicts in the 15th cent., caused by the rise of the Hussites in Bohemia and Moravia. It was a religious struggle between Hussites and the Roman Catholic Church, a national struggle between Czechs and Germans, and a social struggle between the landed and peasant classes. The Hussites resented foreign German rule and fought vigorously to throw off their German yoke."
style = 1
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1474 }
action_a = {
name = "Death to the heretics!"
command = { type = revolt which = 328 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 328 value = 8 }
command = { type = relation which = PAP value = 25 }
}
}
event = {
id = [event 6]
random = NO
trigger = {
owned = { province = 330 data = HAB }
}
country = HAB
name = "Smaller Hussite uprisings in Sudeten"
desc = "The Hussite Wars were series of conflicts in the 15th cent., caused by the rise of the Hussites in Bohemia and Moravia. It was a religious struggle between Hussites and the Roman Catholic Church, a national struggle between Czechs and Germans, and a social struggle between the landed and peasant classes. The Hussites resented foreign German rule and fought vigorously to throw off their German yoke."
style = 1
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1474 }
action_a = {
name = "Death to the heretics!"
command = { type = revolt which = 330 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 330 value = 4 }
command = { type = relation which = PAP value = 25 }
}
}
event = {
id = [event 7]
random = NO
trigger = {
OR = { owned = { province = 330 data = HAB }
owned = { province = 328 data = HAB }
owned = { province = 315 data = HAB }
}
country = HAB
name = "The Hussite movement is no more."
desc = "After more than 60 years of bloody civil war and chaos, the Hussite heretics finally have finally been subdued. Bohemia shall forever be under the heel of the Habsburg dynasty."
style = 1
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1475 }
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1480 }
action_a = {
name = "Catholicism triumpts!"
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 330 value = -4 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 315 value = -8 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 328 value = -8 }
}
}
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22-09-2002, 21:33
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Code:
event = {
id = ?????
trigger = {
religion = catholic
}
random = NO
country = HAB
name = "Austria becomes an Archduchy"
desc = "On November 23, 1457 Emperor Friedrich III raised the status of Austria from a Duchy to an Archduchy. From the reign of Friedrich V to Karl IV the rulers of Austria were refered to as Archdukes.
style = 1
date = { day = 23 month = november year = 1457 }
action_a = {
name = "Excellent!"
command = { type = vp value = 50 }
command = { type = dip value = 2 value = 400 } #Until the reign of his son#
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
}
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22-09-2002, 21:35
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The division of the Habsburg territories in the 15th century COULD be modelled by adding a Tirol and a Steiermark country; Tirol would be inherited by Austria in 1494 IIRC, and Steiermark sometime around 1460 (I'm not completely sure about the years, but they should be roughly right).
The events for the inheritance of the Luxemburg possessions in Bohemia and Luxemburg in 1437 that Fate posted in the EEP Germany thread could certainly be used, too. Possibly, some Austrian provinces could turn protestant, and Austria would get events that let them choose whether they want to expel the protestants or let them stay (similar too France's expulsion of Huguenots events in the 17th century, but less severe). Improving the way the 30 years war is represented in the game could also make Austria much more interesting and fun (they would get a chance to subjugate the german protestants and thereby create a stronger HRE). EDIT: just when I had posted my suggestions I noticed that Fate had already posted his events. But he certainly has my support and compliments for them. |
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22-09-2002, 21:50
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Fate: I have always like your events. I hope that EEP will accept it.
Twoflower: Good idea! I agree with you that Austria's role in 30 years war in EU2 could be expanded. I am just wondering about Protestant event, I don't remember that any Austrian province went protestant unless you meant the event where the one must suppress protestantism or the province become Protestant like historical, correct? I am curious, why is there reluctance to do any German/ Austrian events? Just curious.
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22-09-2002, 21:55
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Austrian provinces could turn protestant with the same justification Johnny Cannuck gave in the British Isles thread for english provinces remaining or turning catholic: there was no province with protestant majority, but there was a large and influential protestant minority in all provinces that can only be represented ingame by one or two provinces with protestant religion.
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22-09-2002, 21:57
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22-09-2002, 21:59
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Political Setup for 1419 Styria:
Styria starts in a RM with Poland (Ernst was married to Cimburga of Masovia) Styria owns Tirol, Baden, and Stiermark. CB shields on all Austrian cities, and Baden Styria is a vassal of Austria Styria starts in an alliance with Austria Monrachs for Styria: 1406-1424 Ernst I "der Eiserne" 1424-1493 Friedrich V (Friedrich III in Austria) (If Styria somehow managed to survive past 1457, then they would have the same leaders as Austria) Major Event: In 1457 Friedrich V became Duke of Austria after Austria's Albrechtian line of Habsburgs died out, which could be represented as Austria inheriting Styria (or vise versa). |
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22-09-2002, 22:05
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Fate, keep come with those ideas and history. It would makes Austria much more interesting to play. I am curious, if I play as Styria, could I inherit Austria and become Austria, like Aragon?
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22-09-2002, 22:20
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Yes, in fact that's what happend.
Perhaps the Styrian event could be designed like this: A: Friedrich V becomes Duke of Austria (End Game) Styria is inherited by Austria B: Friedrich V becomes Duke of Austria (End Game) Styria is inherited by Austria C: Friedrich V becomes Duke of Austria (End Game) Styria is inherited by Austria D: Friedrich V becomes Duke of Austria Inherit Austria Become Austria D would be for a Styrian human player, so they could have a way of not being inherited by Austria, and the reason for the three identical ABC events is so that AI Styria will 99 percent of the time become part of Austria. |
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22-09-2002, 22:22
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Code:
id = ####
trigger = {
exists = HAB #Habsburgs settled the dispute
exists = BAY #Bavaria was having the dispute
owned = { province = 371 data = -1 }
}
random = no
country = HAB
name = "The rewards of mediation"
desc = "In 1504 the Habsburgs were rewarded with a few
counties in southern Bavaria for their aid in mediating a
succession dispute among the Wittelsbachs of Bavaria"
style = 2
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1504 }
action_a ={
name = "Superb!"
command = { type = relation which = BAY value = 100 } command = { type = population which = 371 value = 5000 }
command = { type = provincetax which = 371 value = 2 }
command = { type = manpower which = 371 value = 1 }
}
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22-09-2002, 22:29
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Good idea
 about Styria.One question, did the mediating of dispute really happened? Only one I know is in 1700's.
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22-09-2002, 22:43
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 . The land that Austria gained was in the North East corner of Tirol, which was a divider between Salzburg and Tirol. |
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22-09-2002, 23:59
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Fate, I like your suggestions, but if you want to divide Austria, you need to make two new countries; Tirol certainly was not owned by the Styrian line, and it lasted longer, until 1490.
Its monarchs would be: Friedrich IV. "mit der leeren Tasche" 1406-1439 -he should have a really bad administration skill, as his title already suggests Friedrich of Styria 1439 - 1446 as regent Sigmund "Der Münzreiche" 1446 - 1496 - a slightly better administrator and skilled diplomat It would own Tirol and have only a shield on Tirol but could become Austria if the two other lines don't exist (it would get Austria's shields then). possible events: sometime during Friedrich IV's reign: Friedrich's popular reforms, serfdom is abolished, burghers and peasants are granted more rights, ducal prerogatives reduced 1439: emperor Friedrich V. administers Tirol for Friedrich IV.'s minor son Sigmund; Tirol is a vassal of Styria 1446: Sigmund is adult and ascends the throne; Tirol break the vassalage 1450: Silver mining in Schwaz prospers: more taxvalue and population 1460: conflict with cardinal Nikolaus Cosanus of Brixen; lowered relations with papacy and bishoprics, +2 revoltrisk for about 2 years 1470: construction of castle Sigmundskron; +1 fortification 1486: coining of the Uncialis, the first silver dollar in the world (flavour event) 1490: Sigmund abdicates and lets Maximilian I. have Tirol; Austria inherits Tirol (with a chance to refuse for Tirol) I would really like to script these, and I think I am gonna do it tomorrow (I'm too tired and too excited about the elections at the moment), so is there interest, and does this country have a chance to get included? I could also think of some events that happened in Tirol later that could occur to Austria or a possible surviving Tirol. BTW, neither Styria nor Tirol should be Austrian vassals IMO; the three lines were equal. |
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From: http://genealogy.euweb.cz/habsburg/habsburg2.html#A5
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Extended Monarch List for Tyrol/Tirol:
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What about Krain? I believe this province can be a representation of the Margraviate of Carniola (Duchy in 1590). What do you think Twoflower?
Leaders: Quote:
In 1424 it could be inherited by Styria, or become a vassal of Styria. |
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23-09-2002, 01:19
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Yes, alliance, high relations and marriages sound good.
BTW, I just found out that Styria and Tirol became independent again after the death of Ferdinand I. in 1564 when the Austrian possessions were divided among his three sons. Styria was reunited with Austria in 1619, Tirol 1665; so the creation of these two new countries is definitely historically accurate and justified if e.g. the county of Holland or Brabant can exist as well. Quote:
What do you think should be done about Krain and Istria? I think that Styria should own one of these provinces (probably Krain would be better). EDIT: Damn, we posted simultaneously again
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EDIT: I'm not even sure if it was independent in 1419. Now that I think of it - wasn't Ernst duke of Styria as well? |
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23-09-2002, 01:29
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Yeah, a 5 year existance for Krain doesn't seem worthy of a tag, so I too believe Krain should start owned by Styria.
Istria is just too messed up to be owned by any of the Habsburgs... it would be best to rename the city of that province from something besides Triest. The best solution is just to give Styria or Austria a CB on the province. |
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