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Twoflower 01-03-2003 12:02
EEP Hapsburg dynasty
 
I though it sensible to gather all suggestions made so far for the Hapsburgs into one thread. Basically there have been two main ideas:
- what EU2 has as a united Austria in 1419 actually is an anachronism. Austria, Tyrol and Styria were separate territories ruled by different branches of the Hapsburg family, just like the Wittelsbach principalities of Bavaria, Palatinate and Holland. Having them united is not only ahistorical and inconsistent (the Hapsburg and the Wittelsbach possessions should definitely be handled the same way, but also unbalancing, allowing for premature expansion. Hence, a new 1419 setup was worked out in the old Austria thread (to be found here), creating Tyrol and Styria as independent countries in the respective provinces. There are RMs, excellent relations and an alliance between this countries, but no vassalage (there was no superior branch). Austria inherits Styria by event in 1457 and Tyrol in 1490. I'll repost these and other events into this thread
- Austria effectively never inherited Burgundy. After the marriage, the emperor's son Maximilian was not Duke himself, but only as husband of the Duchess Marie. When Marie died in 1482, Maximilian had to pass the throne to the couple's son, Philipp the Handsome, because the estates wanted their "native Duke" instead of getting incorporated into Austria. Eventually Burgundy was united with Spain when future Emperor Charles V who had already been Duke of Burgundy since 1506 ascended the Spanish throne in 1516. The event scheme should go like this:
1477: Death of Charles the Bold; Austria gets RM and alliance with Burgundy, Burgundy cedes Picardie and Bourgogne to France and Alsace to Tyrol, France gets shields on Artois, Flanders and Franche Comté if it decides to declare war on Marie and Maximilian
1482: Marie dies, Philipp the Handsome becomes Duke, Maximilian remains in effective control and appoints administrators; Burgundy becomes an Austrian vassal
around 1492: Treaty of Senlis (trigger conditions need to be discussed, probably dependent on French inheritance of Brittany and no complete French victory against Hapsburg Burgundy); France abandons its claims (i.e. shields) on Artois, Flanders and Franche Comté
1516: Charles ascends the Spanish throne; Option A Spain inherits Burgundy, Option B (controversial) Burgundy inherits Spain
Some other ideas:
- There were large protestant communities in all Austrian provinces except Tyrol, hence it could make sense to let Styria and Ostmarch turn protestant (this is impossible for the province of Austria since it would make Austria convert in most games which I'd rather not see)
- before the secularisation, Austria had no claim on Salzburg nor ever tried to annex it. The shield on Salzburg should be removed
- the Hapsburg Vorlande in Southern Germany (Sundgau and Breisgau) should be represented by Tyrol owning either Baden or Alsace. Both Baden and Strassburg were not nearly significant enough in the 15th century to justify their existance, however Baden rose to some power later and makes for more interesting events, which is why I suggest that Strassburg is completely removed from the game and the province given to Tyrol
- the Austrian capital could be moved several times. Friedrich V had to flee to Linz (in the province of Ostmarch) after the capture of Vienna by Matthias Corvinus in 1485, his son Maximilian preferred the Tyrolian town of Innsbruck as residence, and only Ferdinand returned the court to Vienna. It's not that badly needed, yet would be nice for accuracy
- the Hapsburg inheritance of Bohemia and Hungary in 1438 after the extinction of the Luxemburg dynasty should be modelled in EEP. IIRC Fate has done some events for this.
- It would be nice to remove the Hapsburg bonus in the imperial elections so that the Hapsburgs really have to work and pay to get elected as they had to historically. The only way to do this is to let Austria and Spain exchange tags with some pagan nation, however the downside is that then Spain will loose the other effects of its tag (Tordesillas and CBs against non-catholics). Any ideas how this could be done?

Garbon 01-03-2003 19:25
Re: EEP Hapsburg dynasty
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Twoflower
- what EU2 has as a united Austria in 1419 actually is an anachronism. Austria, Tyrol and Styria were separate territories ruled by different branches of the Hapsburg family, just like the Wittelsbach principalities of Bavaria, Palatinate and Holland. Having them united is not only ahistorical and inconsistent (the Hapsburg and the Wittelsbach possessions should definitely be handled the same way, but also unbalancing, allowing for premature expansion. Hence, a new 1419 setup was worked out in the old Austria thread (to be found here), creating Tyrol and Styria as independent countries in the respective provinces. There are RMs, excellent relations and an alliance between this countries, but no vassalage (there was no superior branch). Austria inherits Styria by event in 1457 and Tyrol in 1490. I'll repost these and other events into this thread
I do love this setup:)

Fate 01-03-2003 23:33
Also, Burgundy will need an event to move its capital to Brabant in 1430. That capital move should probably also give Burgundy Dutch culture. In return for getting Dutch culture, Burgundy should lose its cores on all French provinces excluding Franche Comte, Artois, Picarde, Lorraine, and Burgundy.

Originally posted by Demetrios (his first post in the EU forums infact):

Quote:
Maps don't tell everything, and at times they are misleading. The problem with having the Netherlands Spanish or Austrian in 1492 is that they were neither. The ruler of the Netherlands (and Franche-Comte for that matter) in 1492 was Philip the Fair. While he was the son of the ruler of Austria and the son-in-law of the monarchs of Spain, he was still, for all intents and purposes, an independent ruler and held the title of Duke of Burgundy, which he had inherited upon the death of his mother Marie (daughter of Charles the Bold, who is usually, and erroneously, said to tbe the last Duke of Burgundy) in 1482. It was only in 1504 that the Netherlands were united with Spain (Castille to be more exact) when Philip and his wife Juana inherited Castille upon the death of Isabella. Of course, in 1506, Philip died and Juana went utterly insane; Juana's father Ferdinand took control of Castille (he was still ruler of Aragon), while Philip and Juana's son Charles (the future Karl V/Carlos I) became ruler of the Netherlands as Duke of Burgundy. It was only in 1516 that the Netherlands and Spain became finally united when Charles inherited Spain from his grandfather Ferdinand.

Twoflower 01-03-2003 23:41
Burgundy definitely needs some other events to be directed better, as well. In fact, besides colonists and Brandenburg-Prussia, it is the country that could profit most from the ai change command. This way, it could start out with a much more civil and anti-French ai, preventing it from getting involved in the usual neverending wars against half the world, and become more of a warmonger in the late years of Charles the Bold's rule. Other events could be the mortgaging of Alsace to Burgundy by Tyrol and Charles' attempts to get his hands on Lorraine, Helvetia and the Rhineland.

Fate 02-03-2003 00:07
Here's a set of modded leaders for Burgundy. The inheritance event for Charles the Bold, if they choose to stay independent, needs to wake the fantasy leaders near the end.

Code:

# Burgundy (Dukes) #
# Modded by Fate#

historicalmonarch = {
        id = { type = 6 id = 04230 }
        name = "John the Fearless"
        startdate = {
                year = 1404
        }
        deathdate = {
                day = 10
                month = september
                year = 1419
        }
        DIP = 9
        ADM = 5
        MIL = 8
        dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
        id = { type = 6 id = 04231 }
        name = "Philip the Good"
        startdate = {
                day = 10
                month = september
                year = 1419
        }
        deathdate = {
                day = 15
                month = june
                year = 1467
        }
        DIP = 8
        ADM = 8
        MIL = 8
        dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
        id = { type = 6 id = 04232 }
        name = "Charles the Bold"
        startdate = {
                day = 15
                month = june
                year = 1467
        }
        deathdate = {
                day = 5
                month = january
                year = 1477
        }
        DIP = 2
        ADM = 5
        MIL = 7
        dormant = no
        remark = "Dies on historical date."
}
historicalmonarch = {
        id = { type = 6 id = 04245 }
        name = "Maria of Burgundy"
        startdate = {
                day = 5
                month = january
                year = 1477
        }
        deathdate = {
                year = 1482
        }
        DIP = 7
        ADM = 5
        MIL = 5
        dormant = no
        remark = "Along with Maximilian of Austria"
}
historicalmonarch = {
        id = { type = 6 id = 04246 }
        name = "Philip the Fair"
        startdate = {
                year = 1482
        }
        deathdate = {
                year = 1506
        }
        DIP = 5
        ADM = 6
        MIL = 4
        dormant = no
}

historicalmonarch = {
        id = { type = 6 id = 04247 }
        startdate = {
                year = 1506
        }
        deathdate = {
                year = 1556
                month = september
                day = 30
        }
        name = "Charles I"
        DIP = 6
        ADM = 9
        MIL = 8
        dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
        id = { type = 6 id = 04248 }
        startdate = {
                year = 1556
                month = october
                day = 1
        }
        deathdate = {
                year = 1598
                month = september
                day = 13
        }
        name = "Philip II"
        DIP = 6
        ADM = 7
        MIL = 7
        dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
        id = { type = 6 id = 04249 }
        startdate = {
                year = 1598
                month = september
                day = 14
        }
        deathdate = {
                year = 1621
                month = march
                day = 31
        }
        name = "Philip III"
        DIP = 4
        ADM = 5
        MIL = 4
        dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
        id = { type = 6 id = 04250 }
        startdate = {
                year = 1621
                month = april
                day = 1
        }
        deathdate = {
                year = 1665
                month = september
                day = 17
        }
        name = "Philip IV"
        DIP = 7
        ADM = 6
        MIL = 3
        dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
        id = { type = 6 id = 04251 }
        startdate = {
                year = 1665
                month = september
                day = 18
        }
        deathdate = {
                year = 1700
                month = november
                day = 1
        }
        name = "Charles II"
        DIP = 2
        ADM = 2
        MIL = 2
        dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
        id = { type = 6 id = 04252 }
        startdate = {
                year = 1700
                month = november
                day = 2
        }
        deathdate = {
                year = 1746
                month = july
                day = 9
        }
        name = "Philip V"
        DIP = 4
        ADM = 4
        MIL = 6
        dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
        id = { type = 6 id = 04253 }
        startdate = {
                year = 1746
                month = july
                day = 10
        }
        deathdate = {
                year = 1759
                month = august
                day = 10
        }
        name = "Ferdinand VI"
        DIP = 3
        ADM = 3
        MIL = 5
        dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
        id = { type = 6 id = 04254 }
        startdate = {
                year = 1759
                month = august
                day = 11
        }
        deathdate = {
                year = 1788
                month = december
                day = 14
        }
        name = "Charles III"
        DIP = 4
        ADM = 4
        MIL = 4
        dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
        id = { type = 6 id = 04255 }
        startdate = {
                year = 1788
                month = december
                day = 15
        }
        deathdate = {
                year = 1808
                month = january
                day = 20
        }
        name = "Charles IV"
        DIP = 4
        ADM = 2
        MIL = 6
        dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
        id = { type = 6 id = 04256 }
        startdate = {
                year = 1808
                month = january
                day = 20
        }
        deathdate = {
                year = 1833
                month = september
                day = 29
        }
        name = "Ferdinand VII"
        DIP = 6
        ADM = 4
        MIL = 4
        dormant = no
}


# Fantasy monarchs. History is not set in stone, after all. :)

historicalmonarch = {
        id = { type = 6 id = 04244 }
        name = "Charles the Bold"
        startdate = {
                day = 5
                month = january
                year = 1477
        }
        deathdate = {
                year = 1486
        }
        DIP = 2
        ADM = 5
        MIL = 7
        dormant = yes
        remark = "Back from the dead."
}

historicalmonarch = {
        id = { type = 6 id = 04233 }
        name = "Philippe IV *"
        startdate = {
                year = 1486
        }
        deathdate = {
                year = 1526
        }
        DIP = 6
        ADM = 4
        MIL = 5
        dormant = yes
}
historicalmonarch = {
        id = { type = 6 id = 04234 }
        name = "Charles II *"
        startdate = {
                year = 1526
        }
        deathdate = {
                year = 1560
        }
        DIP = 4
        ADM = 4
        MIL = 5
        dormant = yes
}
historicalmonarch = {
        id = { type = 6 id = 04235 }
        name = "Jean II Roi de Lune *"
        startdate = {
                year = 1560
        }
        deathdate = {
                year = 1598
        }
        DIP = 5
        ADM = 7
        MIL = 8
        dormant = yes
}
historicalmonarch = {
        id = { type = 6 id = 04236 }
        name = "Henri I *"
        startdate = {
                year = 1598
        }
        deathdate = {
                year = 1631
        }
        DIP = 5
        ADM = 5
        MIL = 4
        dormant = yes
}
historicalmonarch = {
        id = { type = 6 id = 04237 }
        name = "Charles III *"
        startdate = {
                year = 1631
        }
        deathdate = {
                year = 1661
        }
        DIP = 7
        ADM = 6
        MIL = 4
        dormant = yes
}
historicalmonarch = {
        id = { type = 6 id = 04238 }
        name = "Philippe V *"
        startdate = {
                year = 1661
        }
        deathdate = {
                year = 1702
        }
        DIP = 4
        ADM = 6
        MIL = 6
        dormant = yes
}
historicalmonarch = {
        id = { type = 6 id = 04239 }
        name = "Marie *"
        startdate = {
                year = 1702
        }
        deathdate = {
                year = 1730
        }
        DIP = 7
        ADM = 7
        MIL = 3
        dormant = yes
}
historicalmonarch = {
        id = { type = 6 id = 04240 }
        name = "Charles IV *"
        startdate = {
                year = 1730
        }
        deathdate = {
                year = 1769
        }
        DIP = 4
        ADM = 5
        MIL = 6
        dormant = yes
}
historicalmonarch = {
        id = { type = 6 id = 04241 }
        name = "Jean III *"
        startdate = {
                year = 1769
        }
        deathdate = {
                year = 1787
        }
        DIP = 4
        ADM = 4
        MIL = 4
        dormant = yes
}
historicalmonarch = {
        id = { type = 6 id = 04242 }
        name = "Henri II *"
        startdate = {
                year = 1787
        }
        deathdate = {
                year = 1820
        }
        DIP = 3
        ADM = 5
        MIL = 4
        dormant = yes
}

# Ids free to 04259

Fate 02-03-2003 00:27
I just found a site that has the Habsburg regents who ruled the Netherlands in place of their Spanish overlords. Should these regents be used instead of the Spanish Habsburgs? The only downside is that the list stops in 1592 with the death of Alexander Farnese.

http://www.geocities.com/henry8jane/Netherlands2.html

Fate 02-03-2003 03:22
Code:

#The Burgundian Capital#
event = {

        id = [event A]
        trigger = {
                        owned = {
                                        province = 378
                                        data = -1
                                }
                        control = {
                                        province = 378
                                        data = -1
                                }
                }
        random = no
        country = BUR
        name = "The Burgundian Capital"
        desc = "The Duchy of Burgundy was originally a French state, but with the acquisitions of Flanders, Hainault, and Namur the core of the duchy shifted North to the Netherlands. In time Burgundian monarchs absorbed Dutch culture, and when Brussels fell into the hands of Philip the Good he decided to move his royal court to Brussels."
        style = 1

        date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1430 }
        deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1440 }

        action_a ={                               
                name = "Move to Brussels and focus expansion throughout the Lowlands"
                command = { type = stability value = -2 }
                command = { type = capital which = 378 }
                command = { type = add_countryculture which = dutch }
                command = { type = sleepevent which = 21000 } #The Crown of France#
               
        }

        action_b ={                                       
                name = "Remain in Dijon and focus on subjugating France"
                command = { type = relation which = ENG value = 100 }
                command = { type = relation which = U10 value = 100 } #County of Holland
                command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -50 }
                command = { type = sleepevent which = 88005 } #The Annexation of Holland#
                command = { type = sleepevent which = 88008 } #The Death of Jacoba#
                command = { type = sleepevent which = [event B]} #Treaty of Arras (for France)#
                command = { type = sleepevent which = 75003 } #Sale of Gelre to Burgundy#
        }
}


#The First Treaty of Arras#
event = {
        id = [event B]
        trigger = {
                        exists = BUR
                        exists = ENG
                        }
        random = no
        country = FRA
        name = "The First Treaty of Arras"
        desc = "In 1435 a treaty was proposed between King Charles VII of France and Duke Philip the Good of Burgundy. Through it, relations between France and Burgundy could be reconciled. If accepted, Philip would desert his English allies and recognize the young Charles as king of France. In return, Philip received the Somme towns and was exempted from homage to the crown. Charles also agreed to punish the murderers of Philip's father, Duke John of Burgundy."
        style = 1

        date = { day = 21 month = september year = 1435 }
        offset = 0

        action_a ={
                name = "Extend an olive branch to our French brothers"
                command = { type = relation which = ENG value = -50 }
                command = { type = relation which = BUR value = 100 }
                command = { type = stability value = 2 }
                command = { type = trigger which = 3894 }


        }
        action_b ={
                name = "Continue to fight the Burgundian rebels"
                command = { type = stability value = -3 } #The civil war continues
                command = { type = relation which = BUR value = -100 }
                command = { type = sleepevent which = 3894 } #Treaty of Arras (Burgundy)#
        }
}






#The First Treaty of Arras#
#NOTE: this is a modification of a current Paradox event#
event = {
        id = 3894
        random = no
        country = BUR
        name = "EVENTNAME3894"
        desc = "EVENTHIST3894"
        style = 1
        offset = 0

        action_a ={#Side with the French#
                name = "ACTIONNAME3894B"
                command = { type = relation which = ENG value = -200 }
                command = { type = relation which = FRA value = 200 }
                command = { type = stability value = 3 } #The civil war ends
                command = { type = removecore which = 425 }
                command = { type = removecore which = 426 }
                command = { type = removecore which = 424 }
                command = { type = removecore which = 423 }
                command = { type = removecore which = 422 }
                command = { type = removecore which = 421 }
                command = { type = removecore which = 420 }
                command = { type = removecore which = 419 }
                command = { type = removecore which = 418 }
                command = { type = removecore which = 417 }
                command = { type = removecore which = 416 }
                command = { type = removecore which = 415 }
                command = { type = removecore which = 414 }
                command = { type = removecore which = 413 }
                command = { type = removecore which = 412 }
                command = { type = removecore which = 411 }
                command = { type = removecore which = 410 }
                command = { type = removecore which = 408 }
                command = { type = removecore which = 407 }
                command = { type = removecore which = 406 }
                command = { type = removecore which = 384 }
                command = { type = removecore which = 385 }
                command = { type = removecore which = 386 }
                command = { type = removecore which = 376 }
                command = { type = trigger which = [event C] }


        }
        action_b ={#Side with the English#
                name = "ACTIONNAME3894B"
                command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -200 }
                command = { type = relation which = ENG value = 200 }
                command = { type = stability value = -4 } # Civil war continues
                command = { type = sleepevent which = [event C] }
                command = { type = sleepevent which = 88005 } #The Annexation of Holland#
                command = { type = sleepevent which = 88008 } #The Death of Jacoba#
                command = { type = sleepevent which = [event B]} #Treaty of Arras (for France)#
                command = { type = sleepevent which = 75003 } #Sale of Gelre to Burgundy#
        }
}


#The Burgundians Accept#
event = {
        id = [event C]
        random = no
        country = FRA
        name = "The Burgundians Accept"
        desc = "For now our claims on Bourgogne, Picarde, Artois, and Franche Comté will be put to rest. Following the death of Charles the Bold in 1477, King Louis XI of France revived this claim, and annexed Burgundy the Franche Comté."
        style = 1
        offset = 0

        action_a ={
                name = "Now to unite our other duchies"
                command = { type = removecore which = 387 }
                command = { type = removecore which = 379 }
                command = { type = removecore which = 383 }
                command = { type = removecore which = 409 }

        }
}
 


#King Louis XI revives our old claims#
event = {
        id = [event C]
        random = no
        country = FRA
        name = "King Louis XI revives our old claims"
        desc = "Following the death of Charles the Bold in 1477, King Louis XI revived France's claim to Bourgogne, Picarde, Artois, and Franche Comté."
        style = 1
        date = { day = 5 month = january year = 1477 }
        offset = 0

        action_a ={
                name = "Break the Treaty of Arras"
                command = { type = addcore which = 387 }
                command = { type = addcore which = 379 }
                command = { type = addcore which = 383 }
                command = { type = addcore which = 409 }

        }
}
The above is a event set dealing with the Burgundian capital move to Brussels, and a total reworking of the Treaty of Arras. Perhaps the Treaty of Arras should also scede provinces to meet the historical borders in 1435? France would cede Picarde, Artois, Franche Comte, Bourgogne, Flandern, etc. to Burgundy, and Burgundy would cede all of its French provinces that weren't historically part of Burgundy.

Fate 02-03-2003 04:40
A few event ideas:
  • On August 7, 1458 (when Pius II begins his rule) Austria/Styria and the Papal States should have a 100 increase in relations. Pius was the personal secretary of Ferderick, and was a great admirer of the Duke's religious dedication (Frederick, like his father, went on a very dangerous pilgrimage to Jerusalem.)
  • In 1473 Charles and Frederick met to consider a marriage between Maximillian and Mary. If the marriage went through, Burgundy would of become a kingdom (a title only the Emperor could bestow), and the children of the union would be Kings of Burgundy, Archdukes of Austria, and probably emperors as well. Frederick borrowed money and mortagaged estates to arrange a grand meeting with Charles at Trier. There, an agreement was struck; however, at the last minute Frederick feared that King Charles would set his sights still higher on the imperial throne. The arrangements broke down, but within three years Charles died in a ditch outside Nacy. Mary became quite taken with Maximillian during the meeting at Trier, and this is why she, the richest duchess of all Europe, chose the relatively poor Archduke of Austria as her husband. This could lead to an interesting set of events, where if Austria decides to go through with the marriage of 1473, a strong Austria - Burgundy union (with Picarde and Bourgogne since Charles never dies in battle, and Burgundy is never weakened) would form rather than a loose Austria - Burgundy - Spain union.

Also... (this has been said before) Maximillian should be a relatively good military leader.
Code:
historicalleader = {
        id = { type = 6 id = 09393 }
        category = monarch
        name = "Maximilian"
        startdate = {
                day = 20
                month = august
                year = 1493
        }
        deathdate = {
                year = 1519
                month = january
                day = 12
        }
        rank = 1
        movement = 3
        fire = 4
        shock = 4
        siege = 0
}

Fate 02-03-2003 23:31
Event ideas in chronological order (being updated periodically):

(Austria)
1422: Austria and Hungary enter into a royal marraige and possibily an allaince. +200 relations between the two nations. Albert was Sigisund's only reliable ally, and provided troops for Sigsimund's campaigns against the Turks and the Hussites. In 1422 Albert married Emperor Sigismund's only daughter, Elizabeth of Luxembourg. The Emperor declared that Albert would be heir to all his estates and titles after his death, and fully supported Albert as the future king of Bohemia and Hungary.

(Austria)
Hussitenkriege (Hussite Wars): After the execution of Jan Hus on July 6, 1415 in Constance a revolutionary movement formed in Bohemia, partly inspired by social concerns and nationalist ideas and directed against King Sigismund. As his son-in-law, Duke Albrecht V of Austria, had participated in military campaigns in Bohemia and Moravia starting in 1420. Hussite troops invaded Austria between 1425-1431 and devastated the provinces north of the River Danube. As a consequence of the Hussite wars the Austrian national defence system was reorganised on the basis of districts. Effects would include +1 quality, +1 fort in Ostmarch, -1 tax value in Ostmarch, +1 land, -25 gold, and there would be about 3 events (with offsets) where rebels could pop up in Ostmarch represting Hussite raids into Upper and Lower Austria.



(Austria)
January 1st, 1438: The duke Albert of Austria was crowned king of Hungary, and furthermore was elected King of the Romans on the 18th of March. He was also elected King of Bohemia in May but he had to fight to secure that kingdom, while he was the unopposed ruler of Hungary. Hungary should become a vassal of Austria, and enter an alliance with Austria if they aren't already in one. Both Austria and Hungary should receive temporary CBs on Bohemia if the Hussites are sucessful in taking over the country.

(Austria)
October 17, 1439: Albert died in Hungary of dysentery. In early 1439, the Turks were advancing into Hungary, and so Albert gathered an army to repulse them. He reached Buda, and then advanced through the Bacska swamp near the Danube. Neither army engaged the other, as both had to lie low due to dysentery. Evenutally, the Turks retreated, but Albert died shortly after while traveling back to Vienna. Albert died when he was 35 (for comparsion his cousin lived for 70 years), and had only reigned over Hungary for two years. If he had survived, Hungary would of remained as part of the Habsburgs. If we go off into alternate history perhaps Austria could receive cores on Hungary until the death of Albert (hypothetically 1457), and Hungary would remain an Austrian vassal until 1457. In 1457 we would return to the historical monarch Frederick of Styria.

(Styria)
In 1439 Friedrich III became guardian of the minor Sigmund of Tyrol (until 1446). Tyrol would become a vassal of Styria until 1446.

(Styria)
In 1440 Friedrich III became guardian of the minor Ladislaus Postumus of Austria. Austria would become a vassal of Styria until 1452.

(Styria)
In 1452 the Austria Estates force Friedrich to release Ladislaus from tutelage. Austria cancels its vassalage to Styria. Mailberg Federation (the Estates), was founded by a group of nobles, knights and representatives of Upper Austrian and Lower Austrian towns. Led by Ulrich von Eyczing, they entered into an alliance against Friedrich III in autumn 1451. Their objective was to have Ladislas Posthumus released from tutelage. The principal aim of the Estates, however, was to increase their own influence. After having laid siege to Wiener Neustadt, where the king was in residence at that time, the Estates succeeded in liberating Ladislas in September 1452.

(Austria)
In 1457 Ladislaus dies, and a dynastic conflict begins between Albrecht VI and Friedrich III (they are brothers). Austria should be able to choose between the two candiates. If they choose (unhistorical) Friedrich III, they return to being vassals, but if they go through the historical route rebels and revolt risk appear in Vienna. Albrecht VI ruled over Austria until 1462, when the castle of Vienna was seiged by Friedrich.

(Austria/Styria)
In 1463 Friedrich is recognized as the sole ruler of Austria. Either Austria should inherit Styria (most practical), or Styria should inherit Austria, and then become Austria (probably for human Styria).

(Austria)
In 1485 Matthias Corvinus, the king of Hungary, occupied Vienna, called himself Duke of Austria. In several wars (1477 and 1482) he had tried to take Austria and Styria away from Friedrich III, who also called himself King of Hungary. Matthais resided in Vienna until his death; he did not dare, however, make his (illegitimate) son Johann his successor. Hungary should gain a temporary CB on Austria until 1490, and if Hungary occupies Vienna, an event should move the Habsburg capital to Linz. Additionally, the Hungarian capital should be moved to Vienna.

(Hungary)
On April 6, 1490 Matthias died in Vienna. With Matthais' passing, Maximilian I of Austria was able to regain Vienna. Hungary's capital should return to Magyar, and Hungary should give the Austria province to Austria.

(Austria)
Maximilian I purchased Tyrol and the forelands (Alcase and other Rhine lands) from Archduke Sigmund in 1490. Although, he did not buy the lands in the normal sense of the word. Sigmund adopted Maximilian I, which meant that the Tyrol passed to the only surviving Styrian line of the Habsburgs. Austria inherits Tyrol, and the Rhinish lands.

(Austria)
Year: 1494
Name: Bianca Sforza
Description: In 1494 Maximilian had but a single son and daughter, and was without a wife. In 1494 Maximilian married Bianca Sforza in an attempt to increase the financial wealth of Austria, while creating more suitable heirs. Bianca was both barren and wildly extravagant: the marriage was a disaster.

Damn woman!
-50 gold


(Spain/Castile)
Year: 1508
Name: Juana the Mad
Description:
The union of Philip and Juana ended with his unexpected death in 1506, thus plunging Juana further into insanity. During their marraige, Juana had been very protective of her husband. After his death, Juana refused to allow his burial, taking the coffin with her as she moved from castle to castle. Only the direct intervention of her father forced her to allow Philip's burial. Furthermore, Juana was to be confined within the castle of Tordesillas for the duration of her life.

Bury Philip, and confine Juana:
+1 stability -75 gold
Allow her to mourn eternally:
-1 stability

(Austria)
Generallandtag (General Provincial Diet): 1518 Emperor Maximilian I assembled a diet in Innsbruck, in session from January to May and attended by the Estates of the hereditary Austrian lands. After the Diets of Mürzzuschlag 1508 and Augsburg 1510, it was the Emperor´s third attempt at establishing a centralised administration with a common government, common defence and common finance for Austria and the Empire. 70 participants attended the Diet, presided over by the governor of Tyrol. On May 18 the results of the debates on court order, armaments and general complaints were summarised in 3 documents. The Emperor promised that monies would be put to reasonable use, the Estates were granted better status. This general diet was the first all-Austrian parliament and marked an important step toward a centralised state. Effects: +2 centralization, +1 stability.

(Austria)
In 1521/22 through the Edict of Worms and Brussels Karl V gave Austria to his brother Ferdinand I. If we are using the Burgundy setup, Burgundy should be inherited by Spain (or vise versa). Karl will only rule over Spain, the Netherlands, and any Italian holdings. He will however, be the ruler of Austria from 1519-1522. Ferdinand I will rule over Austria from 1522 until 1564.

(Austria)
Kuruc Rebellions: From the 15th century onwards Hungarian revolutionaries against the Habsburgs were known as the Kuruc (meaning carrier of a cross.) During the Habsburg domination of Hungary there were a number of challenger kings, and each sparked rebellion and instability throughout the country. This would be a random event tied the the ownership of key Hungarian provinces. The effects would include: -1 stability, +2 RR for 12 months, and a revolt in Buda, Magyar, Croatia, and Translyvania.




(Austria)
Event: Ferdinandeische Hausordnung
Date:February 25, 1554
Description:
On February 25, 1554 Ferdinand I, together with his three sons, issued a proclamation on the division of his patrimonial lands. Maximilian II was to inherit the Archduchy of Austria both below and above the River Enns, Bohemia and Hungary, in addition to the title of Emperor and the highest position; Ferdinand II was to inherit Tirol and the fore-lands, and Karl II Styria, Carinthia, Carniola, Gorizia and Istria. Each was also permitted to carry the coats of arms, banners and title of all territories.

Issue the decree:
- Create Styria as a vassal in the provinces of Styria, Krain (if Austria own it), and Istria (if Austria owns it.)
- Create Tyrol as a vassal in the provinces of Tyrol, and Alcase/Baden (whatever we decide to use as a represntation of Rhine lands.)
- +2 stability (three happy sons)
- +100 gold

Give it all to Maximilian II:
- -5 stability (two unhappy and powerful sons)
- -100 gold (attempting to buy off the sons)
- Revolt in Baden/Alcase, Tyrol, Styria, Istira, Krain, Vienna, and Ostmarch.

Give it all to Maximilian II, but compensate the other sons:
- -1 stability (two unhappy and powerful sons)
- -500 gold (attempting to buy off the sons)
- Revolt in Baden/Alcase, Tyrol, Styria, Istira, Krain


(Austria)
Event: Extinction of the Maximilian line
Date: March 20, 1619
Descripition:
From 1599 Matthias was a rival of his brother, Emperor Rudolf II, and was finally recognized by the Archdukes as the new head of the family in 1606. In 1608 he was granted the Austrian Danube countries, Moravia and Hungary and in 1611 Bohemia. Since he had no children upon his death in 1619, the Styrian line of the family inherited the his landsd.

Fresh blood:
- Inherit Styria (technically... Styrian Habsburgs inherited Austria after Matthias)


(Austria)
Event: Extinction of the Tyrolean Habsburgs
Date: June 25, 1665
Description:
Sigmund Franz was the second son of Leopold V and Claudia von Medici. He became bishop of Augsburg without consecration in 1646, bishop of Gurk in 1653, and bishop of Trento in 1659. After the death of his brother Ferdinand Karl, Sigmund became the Archduke of the Tyrol. Sigmund renouced all of his ecclesiastical posts in 1665 and contemplated marriage but died before he had any male children. He was the last male issue of the Tyrolean line of Leopold V, and with his death Tyrol finally passed to Austria.

Wonderful:
Inherit Tyrol

Fate 04-03-2003 05:51
http://www.aeiou.at/aeiou.encyclop.d...r/r313148c.jpg

http://www.aeiou.at/aeiou.encyclop.d...r/r313148d.jpg

Those two links have complete Habsburg ruling lists. This should allow me to finalize the monarch files.

Fate 04-03-2003 05:54
Work in progress leader file for Austria:
Code:

historicalleader = {
        id = { type = 6 id = 09393 }
        category = monarch
        name = "Albrecht V"
        startdate = {
                year = 1404
        }
        deathdate = {
                year = 1439
        }
        rank = 1
        movement = 3
        fire = 3
        shock = 3
        siege = 0
        remark = "Fought against Czech rebels and the Turks"
}


historicalleader = {
        id = { type = 6 id = 09394 }
        category = monarch
        name = "Maximilian I"
        startdate = {
                year = 1490
        }
        deathdate = {
                year = 1519
                month = january
                day = 12
        }
        rank = 1
        movement = 4
        fire = 3
        shock = 3
        siege = 0
        remark = "Recaptured Vienna from the Hungarians"
}

historicalleader = {
        id = { type = 6 id = 09395 }
        category = general
        name = "Nikolaus II Pálffy"
        startdate = {
                year = 1580
        }
        deathdate = {
                year = 1600
                month = april
                day = 23
        }
        rank = 3
        movement = 3
        fire = 2
        shock = 2
        siege = 1
        remark = "Schlosshauptmann von Pressburg"
}


historicalleader = {
        id = { type = 6 id = 09396 }
        category = general
        name = "Reinholt Collalto"
        startdate = {
                year = 1599
        }
        deathdate = {
                year = 1628
        }
        rank = 2
        movement = 2
        fire = 3
        shock = 2
        siege = 1
        remark = "Commander of Imperial Army during Mantuan War of Succession"
}

historicalleader = {
        id = { type = 6 id = 09397 }
        category = general
        name = "Nikolaus VI Pálffy"
        startdate = {
                year = 1683
        }
        deathdate = {
                year = 1728
        }
        rank = 3
        movement = 3
        fire = 3
        shock = 3
        siege = 0
        remark = "Participated in the liberation of Vienna in 1683 and in the Turkish Wars that followed"
}

historicalleader = {
        id = { type = 6 id = 09399 }
        category = general
        name = "Nikolaus I Esterházy"
        startdate = {
                year = 1746
        }
        deathdate = {
                year = 1759
        }
        rank = 4
        movement = 3
        fire = 3
        shock = 3
        siege = 0
        remark = "Fought in  War of the Austrian Succession and in the Seven Years´ War"
}

historicalleader = {
        id = { type = 6 id = XXXXXX }
        category = general
        name = "Henri Duval von Dampierre"
        startdate = {
                year = 1605
        }
        deathdate = {
                day = 10
                month = august
                year = 1620
        }
        rank = 3
        movement = 3
        fire = 3
        shock = 4
        siege = 0
        remark = "His cuirassiers saved Ferdinand II from hostile Protestants at the Imperial Palace"
}

historicalleader = {
        id = { type = 6 id = XXXXXX }
        category = general
        name = "Johann Ludwig Hektor"
        startdate = {
                year = 1625
        }
        deathdate = {
                year = 1632
        }
        rank = 5
        movement = 2
        fire = 2
        shock = 2
        siege = 0
        remark = "General of the Croatian cavalry took a leading part in the undecided battle of Lützen"
}


historicalleader = {
        id = { type = 6 id = XXXXXX }
        category = general
        name = "Otto Ferdinand"
        startdate = {
                year = 1695
        }
        deathdate = {
                year = 1740
        }
        rank = 2
        movement = 3
        fire = 2
        shock = 3
        siege = 1
        remark = "Commanded the Austrian troops in Italy during the War of the Spanish Succession"
}

historicalleader = {
        id = { type = 6 id = XXXXX }
        category = general
        name = "Hans Katzianer"
        startdate = {
                year = 1522
        }
        deathdate = {
                year = 1539
                month = october
                day = 27
        }
        rank = 6
        movement = 2
        fire = 2
        shock = 2
        siege = 0
        remark = "Fought in Slovakia, Croatia and Austria against the Turks.  Was assassinated by Count Zrinyi."
}

Isaac Brock 04-03-2003 15:07
Some of these seem overpowered. In particular:

Quote:
name = "Maximilian I"
startdate = {
year = 1490
}
deathdate = {
year = 1519
month = january
day = 12
}
rank = 1
movement = 3
fire = 4
shock = 4
siege = 0
remark = "Recaptured Vienna from the Hungarians"
}
3/4/4/0 seems like too much here. He was good, but was he very good?


Quote:
historicalleader = {
id = { type = 6 id = 09397 }
category = general
name = "Nikolaus VI Pálffy"
startdate = {
year = 1683
}
deathdate = {
year = 1728
}
rank = 3
movement = 4
fire = 4
shock = 3
siege = 0
remark = "Participated in the liberation of Vienna in 1683 and in the Turkish Wars that followed"
}
likely my ignorance, but I'd never heard of him, and 4/3/0 is pretty good.

Quote:
historicalleader = {
id = { type = 6 id = 09399 }
category = general
name = "Nikolaus I Esterházy"
startdate = {
year = 1746
}
deathdate = {
year = 1759
}
rank = 4
movement = 4
fire = 2
shock = 4
siege = 0
remark = "Fought in War of the Austrian Succession and in the Seven Years´ War"
}
Wasn't he basically a cavalry leader? as I recall he was alright, but not great. 4 shock seems a lot to me.

Quote:
historicalleader = {
id = { type = 6 id = XXXXXX }
category = general
name = "Otto Ferdinand"
startdate = {
year = 1695
}
deathdate = {
year = 1740
}
rank = 2
movement = 3
fire = 4
shock = 3
siege = 1
remark = "Commanded the Austrian troops in Italy during the War of the Spanish Succession"
}
Never heard of him either. All I know is that all the important sucesses in Italy in the Spanish Sucession Wars were under Eugene. (1701-1703, 1705-1706). Once he left for the North the French were reasonably sucessful
I'm definitely ignorant, but 4/3/1 sounds too good to me.

Please correct me on the details. I am concerned that Austria get plenty of good leaders already.

Twoflower 04-03-2003 23:18
The sale of the Vorlande
 
Events to turn Alsace - the province representing the Hapsburg Vorlande - over to Burgundy in 1469:
Code:

#Alsace mortgaged to Burgundy
event = {
      id = 334501
      trigger = { owned = { 374 data = -1 }}
      random = no
      country = U19
      name = "Problems in the Vorlande"
      desc = "Sigismund of Tyrol ruled the Vorlande, the Hapsburg possessions north of the Alps, in  Alsace and Breisgau, very ineffectively. Most of the local nobility operated as robber barons, there was virtually no tax collection and the Swiss neighbours in the south occasionally sent pillaging troops in and tried to expand into these territories. One such border war with Helvetia in 1468 was concluded by Sigismund promising to pay 10000 Guldens. Since he was always in financial trouble, he soon searched for someone to grant him a credit. After the Emperor's and the French King's refusal, the only likely creditor was Charles the Bold, Duke of Burgundy. When on March 21st 1469 the two princes met in Arras, they negotiated an even more far-reaching agreement: Sigismund saw Burgundy as a potentially useful ally against the Helvetian threat, and in order to tie him closely to Tyrol, he offered him to mortgage the Vorlande for an amount of 50000 Guldens. To rebuy the provinces, Tyrol would have had to pay back not only this sum, but also all expenses Burgundy would make for the establishment of an administration, which seemed practically impossible for the struggling Count. Hence  by the treaty of St. Omer signed in May Sigismund sold the Vorlande to Burgundy in exchange for the money he badly needed and Burgundian support against his Helvetian enemies. Only due to Charles' premature death in battle the vorlande were returned to Tyrol."
      style = 1
     
      date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1469 }
      offset = 200
     
      action_a = {
              name = "Offer Alsace to Burgundy"
              command = { type = trigger which = 334502 }
                }
      action_b = {
              name = "Don't negotiate with Charles the Bold"
              command = { type = relation which = BUR value = -50 }
              command = { type = treasury value = -30 } #They have to pay Helvetia themselves
                      }
}
event = {
      id = 334502
      random = no
      country = BUR
      name = "The Treaty of St.Omer"
      desc = "Sigismund of Tyrol ruled the Vorlande, the Hapsburg possessions north of the Alps, in  Alsace and Breisgau, very ineffectively. Most of the local nobility operated as robber barons, there was virtually no tax collection and the Swiss neighbours in the south occasionally sent pillaging troops in and tried to expand into these territories. One such border war with Helvetia in 1468 was concluded by Sigismund promising to pay 10000 Guldens. Since he was always in financial trouble, he soon searched for someone to grant him a credit. After the Emperor's and the French King's refusal, the only likely creditor was Charles the Bold, Duke of Burgundy. When on March 21st 1469 the two princes met in Arras, they negotiated an even more far-reaching agreement: Sigismund saw Burgundy as a potentially useful ally against the Helvetian threat, and in order to tie him closely to Tyrol, he offered him to mortgage the Vorlande for an amount of 50000 Guldens. To rebuy the provinces, Tyrol would have had to pay back not only this sum, but also all expenses Burgundy would make for the establishment of an administration, which seemed practically impossible for the struggling Count. Hence  by the treaty of St. Omer signed in May Sigismund sold the Vorlande to Burgundy in exchange for the money he badly needed and Burgundian support against his Helvetian enemies. Charles had achieved one more step towards his primary goal, the connection between Burgundy and the Netherlands."
      style = 1
     
      action_a = {
                name = "Buy the Hapsburg Vorlande"
                command = { type = treasury value = -130 }
                command = { type = relation which = U19 value = 100 }
                command = { type = relation which = HEL value = -100 }
                command = { type = trigger which = 334503 }
                  }
      action_b = {
                name = "Refuse to help Sigismund"
                command = { type = relation which = U19 value = -50 }
                  }
}
event = {
      id = 334503
      random = no
      country = U19
      name = "Burgundy accepts"
      desc = "Charles the Bold of Burgundy has accepted our offer. Alsace, Breisgau, Sundgau and the Rhenanian cities will be mortgaged to Burgundy for 50000 Guldens."
      style = 1
     
      action_a = {
              name = "Ok"
              command = { type = secedeprovince which = BUR value = 374 }
              command = { type = treasury value = 70 }
                }
}
The sums are no mistake, it is intended that Burgundy pays more than Tyrol gets because part of the amount
was given immediately to the Helvetians or used for the establishment of an administration.

EDIT: added the necessary B option to the first event.

Fate 04-03-2003 23:26
I'll lower the stats to threes or twos on all of the leaders you mentioned. (Maybe one 4 on Max... he was fairly sucessful against the French considering Austria was so poor tax wise.) I also need to fix the leader's start and death dates too :o.

A little info on Otto Ferdinand Graf von Abensberg-Traun. What a mouthful :D.

Quote:
Abensberg-Traun, Count Otto Ferdinand von, b. Sopron, Hungary (then Ödenburg), Aug. 27, 1677, d. Sibiu, Rumania (then Hermannstadt), Feb. 10, 1748, general. Commanded the Austrian troops in Italy during the War of the Spanish Succession as Adjutant General to Field Marshal Guido Count Starhemberg; after 1725 interim governor of the duchy of Milan, 1737 Governor of Mantua, Parma and Vicenza. During the War of the Austrian Succession was made Commander of the Austrian and Sardinian troops, forced the Prussian troops to retreat from Bohemia and drove the French troops back across the Rhine. In 1747 was made Commander General of Transylvania.

Some info on Nikolaus VI. Graf Pálffy zu Erdöd:
Quote:
Pálffy of Erdöd, Count Nikolaus VI, b. March 1, 1667, d. Bratislava, Slovakia (then Pressburg), Feb. 20, 1732, Imperial Field Marshal. Participated in the liberation of Vienna in 1683 and in the Turkish Wars that followed; became Schlosshauptmann von Pressburg (Captain of Pressburg Castle) in 1694, Palatine of Hungary in 1713 and Field Marshal General in 1718. It is to his credit that Karl VI´s Pragmatic Sanction was accepted so quickly. Was made Knight of the Order of the Golden Fleece in 1711.

Twoflower 04-03-2003 23:36
Fate:
I think some things need to be changed about your Treaty of Arras events.. There should be no removal of Burgundian shields on France since Burgundy, and all other French minors as well, shouldn't have the cores on all of France. On the other hand France shouldn't loose its core on Picardie and Bourgogne, considering that Louis XI tried to recapture Picardie and that Bourgogne clearly remained part of France, while it does not deserve shields on Franche Comté or Artois at start.
The Treaty of Arras should secede Picardie to Burgundy and cancel a possible vassalage, since these were the main terms of the Treaty beside Burgundy's acceptance of Charles as French King.

Fate 04-03-2003 23:51
The Treaty of Arras should secede Picardie to Burgundy and cancel a possible vassalage, since these were the main terms of the Treaty beside Burgundy's acceptance of Charles as French King.

Perhaps the 1419 could be changed to where Burgundy is at war with France, but starts as a vassal. If at anytime Burgundy gets peace with France, a generic Treaty of Arras (valid during reign of John the Fearless and Philip the Good) pops up that would improve relations, and scede Picardie, Artois, etc. to Burgundy and any other non-shield French provinces to France. In addition, the vassalage would be canceled with +3 to stability (the reasoning behind this is to give the player some incentive to use a historic event to cancel vassalage, rather than doing it himself.)

Isaac Brock 05-03-2003 00:04
Oh, he's TRAUN! Can we call him that? In that case I think his stats are fine, he was a very good general in the War of the Austrian Sucession. However his start date is too early for my books, move to 1725 maybe. I mean he didn't command in Italy right? And his deathdate is definitely too early as in 1740 he hasn't even fought his important campaigns.


As to Palffy I think the 45 years sounds like too much. You sure he was commanding armies for all that time?

Fate 05-03-2003 00:18
He's in the game already :D. I'll make sure to search the leader files by title rather than name. Should all leaders by named that way? (it seems to be how Paradox does names)

While we're adding leaders, we could edit already existing start/death dates as well.
Code:

historicalleader = {
        id = { type = 6 id = 09368 }
        category = general
        name = "von Traun"
        startdate = {
                year = 1697
        }
        deathdate = {
                year = 1748
        }
        rank = 1
        movement = 4
        fire = 3
        shock = 4
        siege = 0
}

Fate 05-03-2003 04:23
I finished up the monarch lists for Styria, Tyrol, and Austria. From it you can see the dates where Styria and Tyrol were relatively independent from Vienna. One other thing I noticed was that Friedrich IV (of Tyrol) was a regent for Friedrich III (of Styria) until 1435.

Monarch files



I also just posted some event ideas for the representation of the three Habsburg lines after the death of Ferdinand II.

Quote:
(Austria)
Event: Ferdinandeische Hausordnung
Date:February 25, 1554
Description:
On February 25, 1554 Ferdinand I, together with his three sons, issued a proclamation on the division of his patrimonial lands. Maximilian II was to inherit the Archduchy of Austria both below and above the River Enns, Bohemia and Hungary, in addition to the title of Emperor and the highest position; Ferdinand II was to inherit Tirol and the fore-lands, and Karl II Styria, Carinthia, Carniola, Gorizia and Istria. Each was also permitted to carry the coats of arms, banners and title of all territories.

Issue the decree:
- Create Styria as a vassal in the provinces of Styria, Krain (if Austria owns it), and Istria (if Austria owns it.)
- Create Tyrol as a vassal in the provinces of Tyrol, and Alcase/Baden (whatever we decide to use as a representation of Rhine lands.)
- +2 stability (three happy sons)
- +100 gold

Give it all to Maximilian II:
- -5 stability (two unhappy and powerful sons)
- -100 gold (attempting to buy off the sons)
- Revolt in Baden/Alcase, Tyrol, Styria, Istira, Krain, Vienna, and Ostmarch.

Give it all to Maximilian II, but compensate the other sons:
- -1 stability (two unhappy and powerful sons)
- -500 gold (attempting to buy off the sons)
- Revolt in Baden/Alcase, Tyrol, Styria, Istira, Krain


(Austria)
Event: Extinction of the Maximilian line
Date: March 20, 1619
Descripition:
From 1599 Matthias was a rival of his brother, Emperor Rudolf II, and was finally recognized by the Archdukes as the new head of the family in 1606. In 1608 he was granted the Austrian Danube countries, Moravia and Hungary and in 1611 Bohemia. Since he had no children upon his death in 1619, the Styrian line of the family inherited the his landsd.

Fresh blood:
- Inherit Styria (technically... Styrian Habsburgs inherited Austria after Matthias)


(Austria)
Event: Extinction of the Tyrolean Habsburgs
Date: June 25, 1665
Description:
Sigmund Franz was the second son of Leopold V and Claudia von Medici. He became bishop of Augsburg without consecration in 1646, bishop of Gurk in 1653, and bishop of Trento in 1659. After the death of his brother Ferdinand Karl, Sigmund became the Archduke of the Tyrol. Sigmund renouced all of his ecclesiastical posts in 1665 and contemplated marriage but died before he had any male children. He was the last male issue of the Tyrolean line of Leopold V, and with his death Tyrol finally passed to Austria.

Wonderful:
Inherit Tyrol

Sikker 05-03-2003 07:16
These are all good ideas, but if Austria has to inherirt so many things to grow large, they will attain a BB from Hell, and all that annexing will make it VERY hard (and quite expensive) for Austria to become HRE.

This should be taken into consideration, as it can seriously alter the game.


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