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Deserteur 05-03-2002 12:03

Original city/province/country names mod
 
Ok guys I am planning a mod in which every province has its original name. The name it has been given by its inhabitants.

Therefore every province/country gets the name of the nationality which lives in it. German provinces get German names, French provinces French, Turkish provinces Turkish names, Dutch provinces Dutch names :) and so on..

If you want to help me please post the city, provinces and nations in this thread in the following form.

name in EU2 - original name

1. EU2 country - correct country
2. EU2 provinces - correct province/ EU2 city - correct city

for example:

1. Austria - Österreich
2. Alsace - Elsaß / Straßburg - Straßburg
Lombardi - Lombardi / Milan - Milano
...


I am planning to modify the ECP for my mod and maybe I get support of the EEP too :)

edit: I especially need your help with each country's special letters, for example this funny little circle above a letter in the Danish or Swedish (forgive me the mistake if I have made one :)) language, because I don't know how to write them on my German keyboard.

CURRENT CHANGES:


GERMANY
Cologne (province) to Köln
Kleves to Cleve
Saxony to Sachsen
Luxembourgh to Luxemburg
Strasbourg (city/country) to Straßburg
Alsace to Elsaß
Wirtemberg/Wurtemberg to Württemberg
Prussia to Preußen
Konigsberg to Königsberg
Pommerania/Pomerania to Pommern
Westphalia to Westfalen
The Palatinate to Kurpfalz
Upper Palatinate to Oberpfalz
Bavaria to Bayern
Thuringen to Thüringen
Hanover to Hannover
Mecklemburg (province/CoT) to Mecklenburg
Vienna to Wien
Silesia to Schlesien
Ostmarch to Ostmark
Austria (country) to Österreich
changed some colonynames of German countries to better ones
Teutonic Order to Deutscher Orden
changed the German army names to better ones and translated them into German


ITALY
Milan (city/country) to Milano
Naples (city/province/country) to Napoli
Genoa (city/country) to Genova
Mantua (city/province/country) to Mantova
Sicily to Sicilia
Sardinia to Sardegna
Rome (city) to Roma
Papal States to Patrimonium Petri
Venice (city/province/country/CoT) to Venezia
Triest to Trieste
Tuscany to Toscana
Florence to Firenze


FRANCE
Brittany (province/country) to Breizh
Nantes to Naoned
Rennes to Roazhon
Morbihan to Mor-Bihan
Armor to Arvor
Savoy to Savoie


SPAIN
La Corunna to Coruña
Burgos to Oviedo
Leon to León
Salamanca to León
Cantabria to Vizcaya
Castilla (province) to Castilla la Vieja
Toledo (province) to Castilla la Nueva
Estramadura to Extremadura
Andalusia to Andalucia
Gerona (province) to Urgell
Gerona (city) to Seu d'Urgell
Catalonia to Barcelona
The Baleares to Illes Balears
Palma to Palma de Mallorca
The Canary Islands (province) to Islas Canarias
The Canary Islands (city) to Santa Cruz de Tenerife
Grenada (city) to Granada
Castille/Castile (country) to Castilla
Aragon to Aragón
Spain to España
changed the Spanish colony names to better ones
Navarra (province) to Nafarroa
Lisbon to Lisboa
Pamplona to Iruña
Béarn to Biarno
Pau to Paue
Saragosa to Zaragoza
Barcelona is now capital of Aragón


NETHERLANDS
Flandern/Flanders (province/country/CoT) to Vlaanderen
Geldre/Gelre to Gelderland
Friesen to Friesland
Netherlands to Nederlands
Antwerp to Antwerpen
Brussels to Bruxelles


BOHEMIA
Prague to Praha
Bohemia (country) to Böhmen
Bohemia (province) to Cechy
Pilsen to Plzen


POLAND
Warszaw to Warszawa
Krakow (city/province) to Kraków
Poland to Polska
Lithuania (province/country) to Lietuva
Gniezno to Sieradz
Czernowitz to Tschernowzy
Poznan (city/province) to Poznañ
Lwow to Lwów
Mazovia to Mazowsze
Podlasia to Podlasie
Galizien to Galicja
Podolia to Podole
Krementjug to Krzemieniec


BRITAIN
Wales (province/country) to Cymru
Cardiff to Caerdydd
Lincoln (province) to Lincolnshire
the Highlands to Gaidhealtachd
Inverness to Inbhir Nis
Connaught to Connachta
Galway to Gaillimh
Ulster to Ulaidh
Belfast to Beál Feirste
Meath to Midhe
Leinster to Laighin
Wexford to Loch Garman
Munster to Mumhain
Cork to Corcaigh
Lothian to Lowden
Edinburgh to Embro
Glasgow to Glesca
Aberdeen to Aiberdeen
Anglia (province/CoT) to Essex
Bristol (province) to Gloucestershire
Eire/Ireland to Éire
Dublin to Duibhlinn
Wessex to Hampshire


SCANDINAVIA
Finland (province) to Varsinais-Suomi
Finland (country) to Suomi
Åbo to Turku
Tavastland to Häme
Tavastehus to Hämeenlinna
Nyland to Viipurin lääni
Viborg to Viipuri
Österbotten to Pohjanmaa
Vasa to Vaasa
Kexholm (province) to Karjala
Kexholm (city) to Käkisalmi
Savolaks to Savo
Olofsborg to Savonlinna
Sweden to Sverige
Norway to Norge
Denmark to Danmark
Lund to Malmö
Iceland to Island


SOUTH-EAST EUROPE
Hungary to Magyar
Laibach to Ljubljana
Zara to Zadar
Presburg to Bratislava
Odenburg to Ödenburg
Guns to Ödenburg
Temeschburg to Timisoara
Sofia to Sofija
Athens to Athina
Nish to Nis
Brünn to Brno
Cyprus (province/country) to Kypros
Famagusta to Ammokhostos
Thrace to Thraki
Constantinople (city/country) to Konstandinoupoli
Smyrna (city) to Smirni
Transylvania/Siebenbürgen (province/country) to Transilvania
Hermannstadt to Nagyszeben
Ruthenia to Rutenia
Croatia (province/country) to Hrvatska
Morea to Peloponnisos
Crete to Kriti
Bosnia (province/country) to Bosna
Serbia (province/country) to Srbija
Rhodes (city/province) to Rodos
Ionia to Kiklades
Candia to Khania
Corfu (city/province) to Kerkira


ASIA
Japan to Nihon
China to Zhongguó
Tibet to Bod
Darjeeling to gTing-skyes
Lhasa to Lha-sa
Bombay (city/province) to Mumbai
Bandar to Machilipatnam


RUSSIA
Moscow/Moskva (city/province/country) to Moskva
Nizhniy Novgorod to Nishnij Novgorod
Ukraine to Ukrajina
Donetsk to Donec'k
Kiev to Kyjiv
Chernigov (city/province) to Cernihiv
Ochakov to Ocakiv
Russia to Rossija


AFRICA
Tripoli (city/province) to Tarabulus
Fez (city/province/country) to Fès
Tangiers (city/province) to Tanger
Orania (province) to Oran
Cairo to Al-Qahirah
Khartoum to Karthum
Casamance (city/province) to Kasamans
Senegal (city/province) to Senègaal
Dakar (city/province) to Ndakaaru
Zimbabwe (city/province/country) to Zimbabhwe
Kabylia to Kabilia
Anti Atlas (city/province) to Antiatlas
Egypt to Misr
Algiers (province/country) to Al-Jaza'ir
Morocco to Al-Maghrib
Tunisia (province/country) to Tunus


MIDDLE-EAST (very far stretched)
Armenia (province/country) to Hayastan
Armenia Minor to Hayastan Minor
Erevan to Ijevan
Tblisi to T'bilisi
Bidlis to Bidlîs
Aleppo (city/province) to Halab
Uzbek (province) to Ûzbekiston
Uzbek Khanate (country) to Ûzbekiston
Urgench to Urganc
Kara Kum to Garagum
Ashkabad to Da¢howuz
Turkmenistan to Tukrmenistan
Ashabad to A¢gaba
Tadjikistan to Tojikiston
Kirgisistan to Kyrgyzstan
Bishkek to Biskek
Azerbaijan to Azärbaycan
Baku to Baki
Ottoman Empire to Osmanli Devleti
Hedjaz to Hejaz
Aden (city/province/country) to Adn
Jordan to Al-Urdun
Afghanistan to Afghanestan
Iraq (province/country) to Araq
Oman to Uman
Trabzon (city/province) to Trapezous
Syria to Suriyah
Lebanon to Lubnan
Yemen to Yaman


AMERICA
Cuzco (city/province) to Qosqo
Ayacucho (city/province) to Ayakuchu
Arequipa (city/province) to Areqepa
Potosi (city/province) to Putusi
Neembucu (city/province) to Ñe'e~mbuku
Chile to Txile
Guatemala (city) to Xek'a'
Campeche (city/province) to Kampech
Yucatan to Yukataan
Zapotec (country) to Zapoteko
Tehuantepec (city/province) to Mahhaa

PatMaster 05-03-2002 12:23

Re: Original city/province/country names mod
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Deserteur
Ok guys I am planning a mod in which every province has its original name. The name it has been given by its inhabitants.

Therefore every province/country gets the name of the nationality which lives in it. German provinces get German names, French provinces French, Turkish provinces Turkish names, Dutch provinces Dutch names :) and so on..

If you want to help me please post the city, provinces and nations in this thread in the following form.

name in EU2 - original name
1. countries
2. provinces / cities

for example:

Alsace - Elsaß / Straßburg - Straßburg
Cologne - Köln / Köln - Köln
...


I am planning to modify the ECP for my mod, but maybe I get support of the EEP too :)

edit: I especially need your help with each country's special letters, for example this funny little circle above a letter in the Danish or Swedish (forgive me the mistake if I have made one :)) language, because I don't know how to write them on my German keyboard.

Do you mean like this?

Svealand - Södermanland/Uppland / Stockholm

Deserteur 05-03-2002 12:39

yes nearly :)

I need it in the form:

(EU2 province name) - (correct historical province name) / (EU2 capital name) - (correct historical capital name)

So Svealand is the province name in EU2.
Stockholm the capital name of the province in EU2.

Shall Södermanland/Uppland be the historical name of the province?
And I suppose that Stockholm is historical correct and does not need to be changed, right?

Sylvain d'Anjou 05-03-2002 13:43

Roussillon/Perpignan is Rosselló/Perpinyà
Gerona/Gerona is Girona/Girona

Txini 05-03-2002 16:27

Galicia-Galicia/La Corunna-Santiago(relocation)
Asturias-Asturias/Burgos-Oviedo(relocation)
Leon-León/Salamanca-León(relocation)
Cantabria-Vizcaya/Bilbao-Bilbao
Castilla-Castilla la Vieja/Madrid-Madrid
Toledo-Castilla la Nueva/Toledo-Toledo
Estremadura-Extremadura/Badajoz-Badajoz
Andalusia-Andalucia/Sevilla-Sevilla
Murcia-Murcia/Cartagena-Cartagena
Gerona-Urgell/Gerona-Seu d'Urgell(relocation)
Catalonia-Barcelona/Barcelona-Barcelona
The Baleares-Illes Balears/Palma-Palma de Mallorca
Valencia-Valencia/Valencia-Valencia
The Canary Islands-Islas Canarias/The Canary Islands-Santa Cruz de Tenerife
Granada-Granada/Grenada-Granada
Navarra-Navarra/Pamplona-Pamplona

I had to relocate some cities to make them more historical.

Vulture 05-03-2002 16:44

EU NAME - OUR NAME

* Flandern/Flanders - Vlaanderen
* Hainaut - Brabant
* Zeeland - Zeeland
* Gelre - Gelderland
* Friesen - Friesland
* Holland - Holland

Deserteur 05-03-2002 16:57

@Sylvain: are these French names??

Rosselló/Perpinyà

@Txini: I have changed the county of Granada to Al-Andalus, because the Moors called it like this. The province will stay Granada ok?

Txini 05-03-2002 16:59

Quote:

Originally posted by Deserteur
@Sylvain: are these French names??
Rosselló/Perpinyà

they are Catalan, very similar to french but isn't french, but during 200 years Rousillon was Aragonese/Spanish, so it would have Catalá/Español name

Txini 05-03-2002 17:08

Quote:

Originally posted by Deserteur
@Txini: I have changed the county of Granada to Al-Andalus, because the Moors called it like this. The province will stay Granada ok?
So you also are going to change country names

Castile-Castilla
Aragon-Aragón
Catalunya-Catalunya
Navarra-Navarra
Spain-España

Deserteur 05-03-2002 17:43

where can I edit the data of Spain to España? I don't know the file for the EGC 1419 campaign.

Gorion 05-03-2002 17:47

Actually the correct name of Castile was Castilla y León

Al-Andalus was the name for the whole of Spain. Granada was a kingdom. Kinda like Castile/Spain

Deserteur 05-03-2002 17:52

Are you sure? Can you show me a source that proves this with Al-Andalus?

Txini 05-03-2002 17:54

Quote:

Originally posted by Deserteur
These are the changes I have done so far:
p.s.: where can I edit the data of Spain to España? I don't know the file for the EGC 1419 campaign.

Spain appears during XV century but doesn't start the scenario.

Deserteur 05-03-2002 21:07

I know :) but where can I edit that Spain does not start as Spain but as España? there must be an entry which says that Castilla and Aragon are from there on Spain and I want this entry to say that they are from there on España.

last things edited:
NETHERLANDS
Flandern/Flanders to Vlaanderen
Geldre/Gelre to Gelderland
Friesen to Friesland (made Friesland a coastal province)

p.s.: Come on I need more French, Italian and Polish provinces!

Txini 05-03-2002 21:12

I think is in text.csv as all the other country names

Deserteur 05-03-2002 21:24

ok then I have already edited this.

Txini maybe you can correct some of the Spanish colony names for me. just check out colonynames.csv for it.

Garbon 05-03-2002 21:36

Quote:

Originally posted by Deserteur
Are you sure? Can you show me a source that proves this with Al-Andalus?
Here is a map that shows Al-Andalus:

Al-Andalus Map

"One Muslim kingdom remained strong. Ruled by the Nasrid dynasty beginning in 1232" http://witch.drak.net/lilinah/HistoryAndalus.html

This here shows that Granada was a kingdom and not synonymous to Al-Andalus.

garbon:cool:

Deserteur 05-03-2002 22:18

I see you are right :) pretty nice source! I hope that you can help me even more with more sources like this.

ok from now on all changes that I have made will be listed in my first post in this thread.

I still need more Swedish, Norwegian, Polish, French and much more province AND COUNTRY names! So be cool :cool: and give them to me.

Txini 05-03-2002 23:11

Like This:

SPA;Sacramento;8
SPA;San Francisco;9
SPA;Los Angeles;10
SPA;San Diego;11
SPA;Ensenada;12
SPA;La Paz;13
SPA;Arizona;14
SPA;Tuscon;15
SPA;Nogales;16
SPA;Hermosillo;17
SPA;El Paso;18
SPA;Albuquerque;19
SPA;Chihuahua;20
SPA;Mazatlan;21
SPA;El Paso;22
SPA;Delicias;23
SPA;Durango;24
SPA;Monterrey;25
SPA;Guadalajara;26
SPA;Ciudad de Mexico;27
SPA;Tampico;28
SPA;Veracruz;29
SPA;Acapulco;30
SPA;Oaxaca;31
SPA;Villahermosa;32
SPA;Santiago;33
SPA;Campeche;34
SPA;Merida;35
SPA;Trujillo;36
SPA;Nicaragua;37
SPA;Caracas;38
SPA;Panama;39
SPA;San Antonio;41
SPA;Nacogdoches;43
SPA;Pensacola;48
SPA;San Agustin;49
SPA;Miami;50
SPA;Santa Elena;62
SPA;La Habana;137
SPA;Matanzas;138
SPA;Santiago de Cuba;139
SPA;Esquivel;140
SPA;Isabela;142
SPA;Santo Domingo;143
SPA;Porto Rico;144
SPA;Ciudad Felipe;151
SPA;La Carolina;153
SPA;Caracas;154
SPA;Baraquisimeto;156
SPA;Maracaibo;157
SPA;Cartagena;158
SPA;San Cristobal;159
SPA;Santa Fe de Bogota;160
SPA;Buenaventura;161
SPA;Esmeraldas;162
SPA;Quito;163
SPA;Guayaquil;164
SPA;Cajamarca;165
SPA;Lima;166
SPA;Ayacucho;167
SPA;Camana;168
SPA;Cuzco;169
SPA;Arequipa;170
SPA;Iquique;171
SPA;Antofagasta;172
SPA;Valparaiso;173
SPA;Valdivia;174
SPA;San Carlos de Ancud;175
SPA;Conception;176
SPA;Cumana;178
SPA;La Paz;193
SPA;Potosi;194
SPA;Montevideo;215
SPA;Salto;216
SPA;Sacramento;217
SPA;Asunción;218
SPA;San Miguel de Tucumán;219
SPA;Santiago del Estero;220
SPA;Cordoba;221
SPA;Rosario;222
SPA;Buenos Aires;223
SPA;Santa Carmen de Patagones;224
SPA;Las Plumas;225
SPA;San Carlos;226
SPA;Santa Cruz;227
SPA;Rio Gallegos;228
SPA;Islas Malvinas;230
SPA;Manilla;690
SPA;Ceuta;732
SPA;Buena Esperanza;778
SPA;Granada;822
SPA;San José;Any
SPA;San Pedro;Any
SPA;San Carlos;Any
SPA;Santa Clara;Any
SPA;San Juan;Any
SPA;San Benito;Any
SPA;San Fernando;Any
SPA;Santa Cruz;Any
SPA;San Felipe;Any
SPA;San Miguel;Any
SPA;San Antonio;Any
SPA;Navidad;Any
SPA;San Luis;Any
SPA;Colon;Carribean
SPA;Los Alamos;North America
SPA;Santa Barbara;North America
SPA;Sacramento;North America
SPA;Nueva Esperanza;North America

Deserteur 06-03-2002 00:14

looks pretty nice to me, I will exchange them with the EU2 ones.

Here is a poll: :)
What do you prefer instead of "The Papal States"?
1. "Lo Stato della Chiesa"
2. "Stato Pontificio"

1. Is written in the Papal States description by EU2 programmers.
2. Has been told to me by Italian friends.


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